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Grand Pope Papa

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Jun 6, 2015
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I would like to suggest new way to form Germany and Italy.
The current way is very simple and boring. A player just has to take a few provinces and wait for adm tech 10. You are not realy involed in forming a grand new nation, there is no diplomacy, alliances or nationalism behind this.
Italy and Germany were not formed like this. (I know Italy and Germany in this game are more of a predecessors to the real things but still...)

Here is my suggestion: (example for Germany)

-Make a new button next the HRE and Papal ones, that takes you to the German nationalism interface. This button should appear at a year 1600 or 1650 or something so that forming Germany happens more later in the game.

-The button becomes available to all nations in the germanic culture group.

-Germany can only be formed if the germanic people feel the need for it. This will be measured by nationalism. At the start (when the interface shows up) the nationalism will be at 0% and than it will rise over the course of the game. When it hits 100%, Germany can be formed.

-Nationalism rises in several ways: (the numbers I use would have to be balanced)
+it goes up each year by 0.1% by default.
+If a nation from a different culture group holds provinces with a german culture group, nationalism will rise by x% depending on that province development level (for example +2% for a province with level 20 development) So if France takes large parts of german lands people would become angry and unite against a common foe.
+ Propaganda. You can spend monarch points or money to increase nationalism.
+Events that would increase nationalism.
+ If another nation formes before Germany, nationaism rises by a lot 5-10% (so if Italy formed before Germany, Nationalism would be on the rise.

-When nationalism would hit 50%, german nations could apply to become leading nations under which Germany would form. They would compete against each other until nationalism hits 100% and than the strongest nation could take the leadership over the union.

-On the interface there would be empty spots for competing nations. To apply you must have atleast 8 provinces. Than the nations compete by having more points. They get points the folowing ways:
+Size of your military/navy: Having more than other competetors gives you points. 0-5
+Prestige: The higher it is the more points you get. 0-5
+Legitemacy/republic tradition: The higher it is the more points you get. 0-5
+number of provinces: Having more than other competetors gives you points. 1-10
+For each friendly/threatened relation with other german nations you get 2 points.
-For each hostile/outrageuous relations with other german nations you loose 2 points.

Actions:
-Humiliate a competitor casus belli lets you declare war on another competing nation and if you win he looses 5 points you gain 5.

-When nationalism is at 100% and a nation has atleast 20% more points than each other competitor, he can form Germany (for example if Brandenburg has 26 points, Bavaria 18 and Ulm 8, Brandenburg can form Germany).

-When Germany is formed all german nations will join you. Stronger ones will likely resist you but you will get cosus belli against them to make them join. You will also gain a claim on all provinces with a german culture.

RULE: A german nation with 50% of his provinces being of another culture group can not compete. So for example Austria ruling over Hungary could not take part of this.


Tha same would go for Italian nations and maybe even Greek nations.

This woud be more interesting than what we have now and you would have to put more work into it.

What do you think?
 
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