Changes in 1.7 that aren't in the patchnotes

[Siegfriedfr]

All the major West European nations start with France as Rival by default.
Wasn't the case for Austria and Castille before, which could be allied. Makes early expansion tricky for the player, but changes nothing for the AI who still got its bonuses.

 

[Gargoul-MotW]

Three, actually. There is a whole thread about the unit pack ( http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...2-Do-you-guys-like-India-2-New-DLC-s-for-that! ) but there was also a Republican Music DLC too.

Music Mod - where?

 

[Siegfriedfr]

Running an observator game, portugal is already colonizing africa in 1465...

 

[lucaluca]

Didn't see this in the patch notes, heir shows up on diplomacy tab along with claim strength and tooltip with stats:

France and Timurids still look overpowered

 

[TheBromgrev]

Russia converted religion, not culture.

Tell that to the Crimean Tatars. Why do you think the problems concerning Russian-speakers (as opposed to Tatars) in Ukraine are happening right now? If anything, the wording shouldn't be "convert culture", but rather "deport and repopulate", since that's really what it represents.

 

[josh127]

France and Timurids still look overpowered

Yeah, but Timurids and Ottomans are 6 mil techs behind (which puts them equal). Ethiopia is still sub saharan and on par with them. The Timurids are only there because no one has been around to challenge them. If you check out the "Go Hordes Go" thread I do have other updates on that game with screenies. Probably a better place for this discussion since it doesn't relate to patch notes.

 

[DicRoNero]

Love the change in Muscovy's NIs. Exactly the idea I've been a proponent of.

Still unlikely to play it, though, thanks to current limitations on joining HRE and clumsy westernization.

 

[Siegfriedfr]

France still invincible, capable of repelling a coalition of castille/austria/england/HRE minors with ease.

 

[Thetitan]

The Goal of the AI is to make it behave more like players in Single Player so that it becomes more fun and not gimmicky and exploitative.

So why on earth does the AI now form Scandinavia? Every single player refrains from pushing that button ever. You get claims (great, you usually own all the land in the zone before being able to press that button) and two free accepted cultures.

What do you loose? Every single national flavor event. You get a horrible light blue color only rivaled by the HRE reformed. A flag equally bad.

If the AI is supposed to think as humanly as possible, it should never, ever, ever form Scandinavia even if it can.

 

[RobRoy3]

All the major West European nations start with France as Rival by default.
Wasn't the case for Austria and Castille before, which could be allied. Makes early expansion tricky for the player, but changes nothing for the AI who still got its bonuses.

Might be some randomness here. CAS, POR, DAN, and BRA did not have FRA as a rival at the start in the only game I've played, so far.

 

[delpiero1234]

Anybody feel like making a summary post?

 

[Ravashak]

Might be some randomness here. CAS, POR, DAN, and BRA did not have FRA as a rival at the start in the only game I've played, so far.

Had the same in 2 Poland games I started, second game Bohemia was rival before unpause, first game they weren't.

 

[Guancyto]

Westernization progress is still reduced by 1 power per 15 basetax instead of 1 per 40 like it's supposed to be.

This was also true in 1.6 so I guess it's not really a change per se, but c'mon guys, one line in defines.lua!

 

[durvas]

You can still join the HRE as Poland, you just have to change government to a Despotic Monarchy because a Feudal one gives too much BT from vassals. Also, started up a game as Bohemia, allied England, and they called me to the HYW.

 

[Raliks]

You can still join the HRE as Poland, you just have to change government to a Despotic Monarchy because a Feudal one gives too much BT from vassals. Also, started up a game as Bohemia, allied England, and they called me to the HYW.

Care to elaborate? How does your government type affect the BT of your vassals?

 

[wingzero890]

Innovative ideas lost 'tolerance' (+25% religious unity) and got some worthless new idea called 'resilient state' (reduce inflation cost -10%? Really? Couldn't make it something useful like -25 or -50%?). 'Tolerance' got put into the new humanist idea group. Someone probably already mentioned this.

 

[nouli]

Care to elaborate? How does your government type affect the BT of your vassals?

+25% vassals income. And now your vassals BT is incorporated into your BT (0.4 multiplier). So the multiplier probably changes to 0.65.

Edit:
Or 0.15 is changed to 0.40. I will check it in a moment.

Edit 2:
Base = 0.15

 

[Lehran]

The base tax in the provinces is now displayed in decimal numbers, for example 4.00 or 11.00. Why did they changed this?

 

[MaXimillion]

The base tax in the provinces is now displayed in decimal numbers, for example 4.00 or 11.00. Why did they changed this?

Probably to deal with cases where BT isn't a round number, like former colonies (natives add to BT if not removed).

 

[Freudia]

Did they screw up who you could rival? I know about the tech group differential, but Scotland should be allowed to rival England on game start, but isn't allowed to currently.