Changes in 1.7 that aren't in the patchnotes

[rulethechaos]

Priveeters seem to give twice as much PP that in 1.6 and the cap per nation seems to be 20 PP.
Conquering provinces from rivals seems to give much less PP now.
PP= Power Projection

 

[TheMeInTeam]

This is a good thread. We should document all of the changes here. What's the over-under on the number of undocumented changes? Once I know them if this thread hasn't fallen so far I've forgotten about it I might edit this post with a "patch 1.7 undocumented change log".

Maybe I'll throw in the ones where patch 1.7 is inaccurate too, especially if there are as many things as in 1.6.

 

[LordNeidhart]

20 PP.

Oh hey this isWAT

 

[Castrolol]

More of an oversight than a change: starting historical truces, such as Granada/Castile, are still just 5 years.

 

[The-King]

I don't know if this is working or not.

- Created decisions to reform a monarchy into Merchant/Noble republic.

Anyone know what the requirements are? I'm playing as an absolute monarchy at the moment and I don't see anything about it. Don't have the dlc but running the patch.

 

[grommile]

More of an oversight than a change: starting historical truces, such as Granada/Castile, are still just 5 years.

That particular one is not an oversight; a cursory poke around on the internet suggests that the last significant Castilian-Granadan border change before the grand campaign start appears to have been the Castilian acquisition of Huéscar in 1434 - ten years before game start. That truce exists to make Granada theoretically playable, not to represent a specific post-war truce.

 

[Pornek]

I don't know if this is working or not.

- Created decisions to reform a monarchy into Merchant/Noble republic.

Anyone know what the requirements are? I'm playing as an absolute monarchy at the moment and I don't see anything about it. Don't have the dlc but running the patch.

If you have more then 9 provinces it wont show up.

 

[The-King]

If you have more then 9 provinces it wont show up.

Ah thanks.

 

[Antless]

I don't know if this is working or not.

- Created decisions to reform a monarchy into Merchant/Noble republic.

Anyone know what the requirements are? I'm playing as an absolute monarchy at the moment and I don't see anything about it. Don't have the dlc but running the patch.

Should show up in the decisions:

- No Subject
- peace
- 1 stab
- no heir or heir with <50 claim
- 20% income is tax (noble rep.) / 40% income is trade (merchant rep.)
- complete aristocratic/influence ideas (noble rep.) /trade+economic ideas (merchant rep.)

 

[Antless]

Change / bug: Retreating from battle causes the unit to flee to same province and (in most cases) be wiped out.

Well tested indeed.

 

[Chev]

Change / bug: Retreating from battle causes the unit to flee to same province and (in most cases) be wiped out.

Well tested indeed.

:huh: Please tell me this isn't true...

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

Change / bug: Retreating from battle causes the unit to flee to same province and (in most cases) be wiped out.

Well tested indeed.

So it doesn't move at all and gets stackwiped?

 

[Antless]

Please tell me this isn't true...

I guess it can be exploited too. Winning a battle and want a stack wipe? Flee right before the moral of the hostile army reaches 0. Haven't tested it though.

 

[Housies]

Change / bug: Retreating from battle causes the unit to flee to same province and (in most cases) be wiped out.

Well tested indeed.

If that is the case, not fun...

 

[Xaioxaiofan]

After taking a quick look at the the defines..
(It's late, I might have missed some of these in the patch notes, correct me if I did.)

'Diplomat speed' is now 20 (up from 10)
'Merchant speed' is now 20 (up from 10)
The ai is less willing to go over forcelimit, 10 (up from 5) (might be under " Improvements to recruit AI.")

 

[Freudia]

'Diplomat speed' is now 20 (up from 10)
'Merchant speed' is now 20 (up from 10)

I assume these are in reference to travel times? If so, the diplomat speed might be nice. Not really a gamechanger or anything, but just kinda there and kinda nice.

 

[idefixfox]

Poland can no longer join the HRE at all. Not sure why, it says "Too Large" with only one pronvince left. Also the treshhold for foreign cultures to join seems to be at 15 basetax now?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Poland can no longer join the HRE at all. Not sure why, it says "Too Large" with only one pronvince left. Also the treshhold for foreign cultures to join seems to be at 15 basetax now?

Perhaps they count vassals as your territory now. Still a big undocumented change.

 

[Freudia]

Poland can no longer join the HRE at all. Not sure why, it says "Too Large" with only one pronvince left. Also the treshhold for foreign cultures to join seems to be at 15 basetax now?

It's likely still 20, but I'd have to check. Poland apparently has a reworked tradition now, where its religious unity got changed to accepted culture modifiers.

 

[CzokletMuss]

This thread is a good idea; another unmentioned (?) change is second of Polish national traditions - instead of +20% religious unity it's now -15% Accepted Culture threshold.