Change the "play" console command in line with the "tag" command in other games

[Lysistrata]

In e.g. Vic2 and EU4 you'll be prevented from switching to an unplayable tag if you accidentally get a tag ID wrong. CK2 character IDs are way more complicated and open to typos and yet you won't be saved from a "game over" if you get a single number wrong and accidentally switch to an unplayable character like a courtier, baron, theocracy etc.

It's especially annoying for me because I like to switch around the map and tweak things to my taste before unpausing, and I can't tell you how many saves I've ended up giving up on because I accidentally got a character ID wrong and lost a lot of the changes I'd made because there's no way around the game over screen, even if you go into observer mode, with the alternative being to spend hours retracing my steps through the console log. It's just an incredibly frustrating thing to have happen. Please fix it already.

 

[MemeWizard]

there's no way around the game over screen, even if you go into observer mode

save_without_ironman <Save name> → Quit game → Load Save
Not what you are asking for, but it definitely will help to save tweaks and not lose a lot of hours.

 

[Xenrek]

In e.g. Vic2 and EU4 you'll be prevented from switching to an unplayable tag if you accidentally get a tag ID wrong. CK2 character IDs are way more complicated and open to typos and yet you won't be saved from a "game over" if you get a single number wrong and accidentally switch to an unplayable character like a courtier, baron, theocracy etc.

It's especially annoying for me because I like to switch around the map and tweak things to my taste before unpausing, and I can't tell you how many saves I've ended up giving up on because I accidentally got a character ID wrong and lost a lot of the changes I'd made because there's no way around the game over screen, even if you go into observer mode, with the alternative being to spend hours retracing my steps through the console log. It's just an incredibly frustrating thing to have happen. Please fix it already.

or better, just make them all playable~!

(i kid, i kid, no kill)

 

[fall back]

The problem is that charid is this games version of a tag which is the playable entity that the game is focused on

 

[Lewa263]

The problem is that charid is this games version of a tag which is the playable entity that the game is focused on

They aren't suggesting to change that. Their suggestion is to make it so that an attempt to play as an unplayable character gives an error message and does not occur, the way tag switching works in those other games. Currently, the console will change you to play as a character, but give an instant game over if that character isn't playable.

 

[tilly]

i dunno, its handy if youre doing console shenanigans with a cheat engine to create an ironman worldstate. if you fuck up and want to roll back you can just tag a random lowborn courtier and return to the main menu instead of having to end process and launch the whole game again

i have absolutely more than once made a typo and lost hours of messing around, though, so itd be nice to get an "are you SURE you want to do this you fucking animal" popup when youre about to switch to a character who will make you game over instantly

 

[klopkr]

While we're at it a way to give characters land would be great. something like usurpall e_X (character number).

Sometimes I just want to give land to certain characters to make fun eu4 conversions. It's a massive pain to do right now though.