Change the cost of Invite Noble to Court/Present Debutante

[Empress Matilda]

These are currently scaled to income and can get very high. 59.9 gold for my king atm to invite some random noble or lady to my court. Net effect is I never use them. Its usually much cheaper to bribe someone to my court and they aren't random then. Compare it to the flat rate 25 piety to invite a holy man or just nicking your vassals courtiers when you need a competent baron. Given that since Charlemagne prestige has effectively become a currency I'd suggest changing the cost to 50 prestige. It makes as much sense for people to come to your court because of your fame and glory as it does for them to come because of your wealth.

 

[weso12]

I think they are scaled to cost so people don't spam them over and over to have hundreds of courtier, just to fill their council with high stat people. I find it odd that Holy man aren't scaled at all (and that aside from age there is no difference between the two)

 

[Talq]

holy men must have learning, and piety doesn't scale in the same way income does.

To be honest, I very (very) rarely use them, and can't think of a scenario I would do that when my income was high (as high income implies I have a fair number of vassals)

 

[Zohtun]

The only benefit is that they're lowborn, thus your bordergore is kept more in check. But I agree. There's no point to using them once your salary starts making summoning them crazy high...

 

[Steel_atlas]

They should cost prestige instead of cash, technically they are better then holy men as since stewardship increases cultural conversion and well money intake.

Both do have a use though it is situational, if you are a different culture then most of your vassals you might not be able to find any unlanded non-dynasty same culture/religion people to rule counties. And having them married before you land them, through the debutante would further hampen bordergore.

But again gold is at a premium.

 

[NewbieOne]

They have limited use when you're playing as a dying or narrowly local culture, e.g. Breton or even Welsh, but gaining land rapidly. Then it makes sense to create more guys of your own culture, since there are only so few on the map. Otherwise I see them as too expensive to use, yeah.

Also, if you would be willing to accept the first random pick of a noble to grant a barony to, then you can get one free of charge with the 'create random vassal' button. Same for bishops.

 

[Rags17]

They should cost prestige instead of cash, technically they are better then holy men as since stewardship increases cultural conversion and well money intake.

Both do have a use though it is situational, if you are a different culture then most of your vassals you might not be able to find any unlanded non-dynasty same culture/religion people to rule counties. And having them married before you land them, through the debutante would further hamper bordergore.

But again gold is at a premium.

+1 this !

 

[Empress Matilda]

They should cost prestige instead of cash, technically they are better then holy men as since stewardship increases cultural conversion and well money intake.

Both do have a use though it is situational, if you are a different culture then most of your vassals you might not be able to find any unlanded non-dynasty same culture/religion people to rule counties. And having them married before you land them, through the debutante would further hampen bordergore.

But again gold is at a premium.

Even in that situation I'd probably rather invite a random holy man than pay say 5 or 6 gold for a random noble. Both are usually mediocre and as you say gold is at a premium.