Change Roman Culture

[Hezekiah]

Currently (1.34), forming the Roman Empire changes provinces you own which are in your culture group to Roman culture, which is part of the Lost Cultures group. Although this is a marked improvement over previous patches where only your direct primary culture became Roman, it still has some problems.

Consider a campaign where the player starts as Castile, forms Spain, and later forms Rome, all while remaining Catholic. When the player takes the decision to restore the Roman Empire, the following things happen:

1. Owned provinces of the primary culture group changes to Roman.
2. If El Escorial had been upgraded, as Madrid (province 217) changes to Roman culture, the effects of upgrading the great project are lost.
3. Any Holy Orders will be removed, as the primary culture no longer belongs to the Iberian group.
4. The Council of the Indies tier three government reform will be lost, as it requires a capital in Iberia and an Iberian primary culture.
5. The "Grand Armada" naval doctrine will be lost, as the primary culture is no longer Castilian.

For non-Iberian cultured Rome restorers, any unique cultural mechanics and tag-specific government reforms will also be lost if present.

I would like Roman culture and/or Roman restoration to change so that these outcomes can be avoided.

• Allowing Roman culture to satisfy cultural requirements for great works and government reforms could help avoid problems 2 and 3. It can be irritating to lose the function of a great project, but deciding which great projects should work with Roman culture could be difficult. Some would want all of Western and Eastern Europe, some would want to include the southern Mediterranean, some would want to include the Levant, etc. Losing a government reform is similarly irritating.
• Giving the Roman Empire tag magic to allow previous tags' unique government reforms and naval doctrines to persist could also work, but would be inconsistent design.
• Allowing the Roman Empire to get restored without affecting the primary culture in any way would circumvent the loss of cultural mechanics, and thus problems 3 and 5.
  • Moving the forced culture change from nation formation to a later decision (example: "Revive Latin language and culture") would still allow access to the Roman culture.

 

[DukeLeto42]

Thinking about the practicalities of this, a single flag indicating the culture from which Roman was formed that is applied to your country exists so long as you are still Roman should do the trick for most of this.