Change how rebellions work

[monkey1998]

I love this game, but as a right now every time a new ruler ascends to the throne you have to face multiple rebellions with the first one to kick off typically having three to four times your soldiers and knights. This is because the vassals are now allies to each other instead of vassals to the rebel leader, so 10 or more rebels who each have 1k-2k soldiers can combine to form any army of 20k-30k or even more. You don't even have to be a tyrant to have this happen you just have to be new. This is beyond annoying and you have to horde money to buy mercenaries to even stand a chance which is also difficult now because mercenary prices scale up with your wealth. Another issue is you can only arrest rebels who are still fighting at the end of the war. If you capture a rebel leader they are just forced to leave the rebellion and you aren't granted a reason to arrest them so they get off free.

Please rework this by making the rebels vassals under one leader and by making rebellion a crime at the beginning of the rebellion instead of at the end. Or even come up with an entirely different system, but regardless please make changes because this isn't fun at all.

 

[Deshiba]

Weird, my experience with rebellions are completely opposite to yours. They are generally inconsequential and happen from time to time no matter what I do. The armies are laughably weak compared to my existing army, making rebellions akin to the seasonal swatting of flies. Hardly a threat, but annoying none the less.

On succession you should spend money on granting gifts/land/concubines to vassals, or use secrets to extort them. This would prevent succession rebellion, or minimize it to such a degree that it's inconsequential.

 

[monkey1998]

Weird, my experience with rebellions are completely opposite to yours. They are generally inconsequential and happen from time to time no matter what I do. The armies are laughably weak compared to my existing army, making rebellions akin to the seasonal swatting of flies. Hardly a threat, but annoying none the less.

On succession you should spend money on granting gifts/land/concubines to vassals, or use secrets to extort them. This would prevent succession rebellion, or minimize it to such a degree that it's inconsequential.

Are you playing at the latest update and on ironman?

 

[Deshiba]

Are you playing at the latest update and on ironman?

I exclusively play ironman, and though I've not played for over 2 weeks, that's still the latest update.

 

[Matihood1]

Another issue is you can only arrest rebels who are still fighting at the end of the war. If you capture a rebel leader they are just forced to leave the rebellion and you aren't granted a reason to arrest them so they get off free.

This reminds me. If you capture someone who isn't a rebel leader and you had warscore from occupying their lands, you lose that warscore since the land you previously occupied is no longer considered as such because that person isn't a war participant anymore. I had a case where I would've been able to finish a war after sieging down a province (the warscore was at 98% or so) but it was instead brought down to like 70-80% because I captured a rebelious vassal in the siege.