Change from Elective to Semisalic Gavelkind laws in Sweden 1337.

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I don't think that the elective law should be present in Sweden in the 1337 scenario, by that time the election was more of a ceremony. The kings more than often decided their heirs. I think that salic or semisalic gavelkind should be the law. Magnus Ladulås gave his sons a big part each tp prevent civil war, and Magnus Eriksson gave one of his sons the title King of Norway and another the title King of Sweden.

 

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Yes but it is possible to twist the elective law to allow you to pass titles from father to son, so if Sweden was technically elective then elective it should remain.

 

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But in real late medieval history, only the sons used to inherit, even if they didn't owned any land. It was the king's decision, and as I said - the election was nothing but a ceremony.

 

[Calgacus]

'Twas similar to most "elections" in pre-Frederick II Germany, where the election was more of a rubber stamp than a real election.

 

[Olaus Petrus]

Sweden was elective until Gustav Vasa (1521 - 1560). Magnus Ericsson (1319-64) was deposed by Swedish nobility and they elected his relative Albrecht of Mecklenburg (1364-89) to a Swedish king. Then they diposed Albrecht and elected Margareta of Denmark and Norway as their ruler. During the union time elective law was very important, because Swedes didn't always accept new union kings and deposed some of them (even though they were still kings of Denmark and Norway) During union time Sweden had one own king (Karl Knutsson Bonde who was elected to a king three times and deposed twice. He was king in 1448–57, 1464–65 and 1467–70.) and many regents.

So as you can see Sweden was still elective and that actually meaned a lot.

 

[Styrbiorn]

Sweden was elective until Gustav Vasa (1521 - 1560). Magnus Ericsson (1319-64) was deposed by Swedish nobility and they elected his relative Albrecht of Mecklenburg (1364-89) to a Swedish king. Then they diposed Albrecht and elected Margareta of Denmark and Norway as their ruler. During the union time elective law was very important, because Swedes didn't always accept new union kings and deposed some of them (even though they were still kings of Denmark and Norway) During union time Sweden had one own king (Karl Knutsson Bonde who was elected to a king three times and deposed twice. He was king in 1448–57, 1464–65 and 1467–70.) and many regents.

So as you can see Sweden was still elective and that actually meaned a lot.

Yep. The workings of the Swedish election system isn't very well simulated by the CK engine (if it was, no one would play elective), but it's still much better to have the CK-version of it than any inheritance by blood law.

The handing out land to different sons is very well represented by granting titles.