Change emperor to padishah emperor
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Absolute Sovereign (has in doesn't submit to god) ? ( I still stand by padishah emperor) we need to find or make up a title that sufficiently grand to be a match to god emperor.
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How about God-Emperor, if it has to be secular Stellar Emperor is the best for sure
The point has probably already been made, but basically "Empire" comes from latin "Imperium", which means power over something. The Roman Empire, therefore, was in practice the power of Rome.
My point being : you can call anything anything. In the end, you are simply trying to find a word to describe the exercise of power. You can call your dude "god emperor" (although I find it hard to imagine that a significantly advanced species would go for such an archaic form of government), administrator in chief, broodmother or whatever you like. I really don't see the point of creating a specific title that all species would have.
My point being : you can call anything anything. In the end, you are simply trying to find a word to describe the exercise of power. You can call your dude "god emperor" (although I find it hard to imagine that a significantly advanced species would go for such an archaic form of government), administrator in chief, broodmother or whatever you like. I really don't see the point of creating a specific title that all species would have.
but that's just formal address...not a title
So we should use some alien language then...
...what about Orthoptheriocthrastic G'liopthekopath
...that still sounds somewhat latin...
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unique titles is the only way...
Supreme Exarch
Archemperor
Xenotzar
Hakravartin
Khaganator
Great Tyrant
Satrapax
Kosmokrator
Supreme Exarch
Archemperor
Xenotzar
Hakravartin
Khaganator
Great Tyrant
Satrapax
Kosmokrator
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Uhhm significantly advanced species archaic form of government, huh?
Technological progress makes an advanced species, not some form of ideological based taxation of government forms based on your percieved progressiveness thereof.
Humans f.E are pretty violent and authoritarian ( domineering, power-play ) animals, and this didn't change just because we have more technological playthings now. We still even if it's subconsciously try to dominate groups and be part of groups we still have high tendencies to outside-of-the-group violence. I am not saying this is good, but it is our nature ( Something being natural doesn't mean it's good; cannibalism and murder are natural f.E and I think both of those are very bad my opinion though feel free to disagree ).
/incoherent rant
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The argument is that in order to develop technology in any kind of time efficient manenr you need certain philosophical advancements (the scientific methic for an example requires you to question authority) that would seem to lead directly to some sociological advancements too. Of course this may just be a failure of imagination on our part. We can after all now imagine life truly alien to our definition of life, same goes for intelligences emergent thereof.
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Well the most authoritarian government forms emergent after the scientific method in addition there is no proof that technological progress leads to different socioligcal "advancements" ( so far the west got more liberal, as well as lots of Asian countries, although you could argue that countries like Japan were very liberal when it came to sexuality to begin with etc. I put the term advancement in quotes cause we usually mean liberal and I do prefer liberal social structures, but they are not a modern invention so I wouldn't say advancement ). The Soviet Union as well as Nazi-Germany had great scientific advancements, they repressed certain science-branches, but they overall had great academics when it came to military & nature sciences.
I do fully agree that we shouldn't apply human standards to alien life. As you said we can imagine life truly alien to our definitions, hence applying our definitions is somewhat absurd.
IIRC the only thing universally applicable to life-forms is, unless they are born post-scarcity ( and even if they are born post-scarcity they likely evolved to adapt for scarcity ) is domineering behaviour. Hawkings talked about this, and I do disagree with a lot of his views on A.I f.E, but this makes fully sense to survive in an enviroment of scarce ressources you have to compete. No one says competition has to be lethal, but domineering behaviour is likely. Unless if course we are talking about Boltzmann-brains, which kind of negates everything I said. But races with multiple individuals which used to be tribal or a variation thereof are likely competitive in nature and this is usually lethal towards other species.
Remember the last time you negotiated with ants in your backyard? No? Me neither.
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Well, in the Roman meaning, the Emperor is the guy which basically rule the entire fcking Universe. So, you know. It would be kind of difficult to do something greater. Even "Super Ultra Mega Space Emperor of Hardcore Death Metal " would just be the same in meaning than a simple "Emperor" you know.
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This and in a similar way president and CEO need no addons to make them grander.
Augustus
Imperator
Dominus
Considering how Pdx used Consul, Archon and Strategos for other gov forms.
Imperator
Dominus
Considering how Pdx used Consul, Archon and Strategos for other gov forms.
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Emperor has a sobriety that is hard to match. It says you don't need a shitload of grandiose titles because your authority doesn't come from those titles, it comes from your person. The title of Emperor has power from your wielding it, not vice-versa, as per Roman times.
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I really like "Censor" for an Irenic Democracy. It's the perfect title for the head of a multireligious spiritual democratic.
Same with "Consul" and "Coordinator" for Military Republics and Peaceful Bureaucracies, respectively. Sometimes the most badass titles are the solemn ones.
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My Vote: Instead of changing title of Star Emperor, change the title of Despotic Empire to Despot, and Star Empire to Emperor.
Maybe change despotic empire to despotic monarchy and star empire to despotic empire?
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