CB vs Holy Order Catholic Advise Reqd

[Narvait]

So, in short.
1) I play 1220 start Romuva. Livonia and Prussia belongs to Teutones.
2) I fight like crazy and create Romuva Kingdom Lithuania.
3) Poland, Denmark and Norge gang up against me and now I have to either accept loss in holy war or become Catholic (convert to attackers religion).
4) I save the game.
5) As Romuva I am pretty isolated. Golden Horde has became Sunni and I have only North Pole seal hunters to drink beer and marry with. So, I am kind of OK to join the civilized world and accept one of Jesus as my savior.
6) I check out the holy water on my head and convert to Catholic.
7) I DO NOT SEE THE DE JURE KINGDOM CB AGAINST ORDER'S LITHUANIAN PROVINCES. It was there when I was Romuva king.
8) Is that a bug or feature?
9) if I found a way to become Orthodox - would I keep the de jure K_Lithuania CBs vs Teutones?

 

[DPS]

De jure claims have nothing to do with religion. Are you sure that the Order's provinces are still part of your de jure realm? If so, you should still have the CB; if not, you wouldn't have the de jure CB regardless of your religion.

 

[BD13]

Two guesses... Both could be wrong.

1. They de jure drifted into another kingdom over time.

2. The Teutons created a custom kingdom that now has the counties de Jure theirs now.

 

[Narvait]

De jure claims have nothing to do with religion. Are you sure that the Order's provinces are still part of your de jure realm? If so, you should still have the CB; if not, you wouldn't have the de jure CB regardless of your religion.

Maybe you cant attack your religious order unless you have fabricated claim on it?
I will recheck of course, still got the save. Will check if I can de jure attack as Romuva king, then same day become Catholic and check if de jure is still there.

 

[Narvait]

Romuva

Catholic

Orthodox

So, Romuva good to go. Catholics lack prestige (due to me converting) and CB. Orthodox lack only prestige.

Question if this is a bug or way to go. From immersion point of view I am cool with it to be WAD.

 

[Rationalsanity]

I'm pretty sure that's a bug.

 

[Dragatus]

You can't use de jure claim CBs against holy orders of your own religion unless you first expel them from your realm (decision for that is intrigue tab). The 200 prestige cost is for breaking a truce.

 

[Narvait]

You can't use de jure claim CBs against holy orders of your own religion unless you first expel them from your realm (decision for that is intrigue tab). The 200 prestige cost is for breaking a truce.

Thanks, that explains everything.
A bit counterintuitive, since they are not part of my realm now to expel them, but perhaps they are part of my de jure so it makes some sense.