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Chapter 59

The time between winter 840 and summer 843 was when the final chapter in the Pictish conquests came to an end. In late 840 and early 841 the Dukes of York and Mercia went to war against the King of Shrewsbury. Seeing how his vassals could not muster enough men to take on both Shrewsbury and the two Holy Orders left in Britain (the Knights of Santiago and the Knights Hospitaller) he called upon his raiders and led an army to destroy any resistance. The stratagy worked and only worked because of how Brindei inspired his men to march against superior numbers. This was used in Cornwall two years later to kill off the last Saxon King.
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In 841 the mother of the King, Bertrada died. It came after she went to a small port town on the south coast of England (possibly Brighton). From what records remain of her the accepted idea is that she caught Pnumonia. Brindei was not upset to see her gone. In fact he commited his most wicked act. A few years previously he had taken a lover, not the most sinful thing he ever did. But then he took her as a concubine. This in itself caused his wife to not speak to him, and after other news came to light she left him altogether. This was probably his intent as it was common knowledge that Brindei detested being married to a dwarf. The
thing about the woman (thought to be Siunod Cait, daughter of an important landowner) was that she was a nun. A deeply religious one apparantly. How then she came to be a concubine of the King is unknown and remains a source of befuddlment to modern scholars.
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On the 27th July, 843, Brindei was proclaimed overlord of the Welsh, Saxons, Angles and Irish. The last one being but a title, the Irish ruled by his brother were independant at this point. The land was divied up and, unsurprisingly, it went to his nephews. Wessex, Cornwall and South Wales all went to two brothers, and his own sons made minor advancements in the new territory. Brindei of East Anglia made the larger gains, and was able to rule them unlike his brother.
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It was around this time that Ragnarr Lodbrok finally died. Sweden and Finland were divided between his son and grandson. Sigurdr Ragnarrsen took the poor and sparsly populated Finland where he ruled only in name, he was far too cowardly to engage in politics. Bertil was given Sweden and the entire Viking army and navy with which he intended to do as they always had done, Viking. He was a good ruler, intelligent, kind, talkative, but was did not approve of justice. He was famously (or infamously) arbitrary. This was seen by the Priest of Canterbury, Girom, who tried to convert the King but was imprisioned.
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In autum 844 his daughter was married to the Byzantine Duke of Thessalonika. This was not however the best marriage. He was 52 and while capable was strange and prone to illness. It is often thought that he married her to him to get rid of her! Previously in the Eastern Empire the Basileus had changed religions with the Iconoclast Patriarch. They gave up the Cathar-friendly Iconoclasm in favour of old Orthodoxy.
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I say go for Pagan lands and build up a Cathar northern bloc to fight mainstream Catholicism. Yes, we have to split up eventually, but we don't have to do it now and handicap ourselves so badly the crusades will wipe the Kraka-Tur from the map...
This. Wooyar presses to much on it. If some player will get his turn and think "to easy" he can always make some split, and after all, at some point it need to happen anyway.
 

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I AM pressing because we need to handicap ourselves sooner or later. Staying a double monarchy is fine for now, i am trying to think about the future here, if we stay a big blob it makes no sense to even continue converting it :)


Although, maybe you are right. I am pressing too much.
 

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I AM pressing because we need to handicap ourselves sooner or later. Staying a double monarchy is fine for now, i am trying to think about the future here, if we stay a big blob it makes no sense to even continue converting it :)


Although, maybe you are right. I am pressing too much.

We can always have E_Britannia (without Ireland) and all Scandinavia and still be weak in compare to Abbasid/HRE blob... we need to get some resources to beat them. Ofc we can do it by mercs as 1 duchy, or holding 2 empires, but it doesn't matter. Split will happen anwyay so converting still will be fine.
 

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Good point actually.

We could actualy own like one kingdom in Scandinavia and one kingdom in Brittania! That would lead to interesting outcomes!
Well, as long as it's not something like Finland + Ireland.
I still think we should create the Holiest Cathar Empire.
 

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If we want to keep countries their own culture, the culture malus we'll get from installed vassal lords (norwegians for example) will be hard on us already. We don't have to hurry splitting off anything: if we don't create an empire, we won't get de jure vassal kings and then we can always grant them independence.

I kinda like the kingdom of "Picts" as it is now. If you ask me, empires are for blobbing and much too mainstream, kingdoms are for badass hipsters ;)

EDIT: Norway is looking as if it'd be easily invaded in separate holy wars.
 

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If we want to keep countries their own culture, the culture malus we'll get from installed vassal lords (norwegians for example) will be hard on us already. We don't have to hurry splitting off anything: if we don't create an empire, we won't get de jure vassal kings and then we can always grant them independence.

I kinda like the kingdom of "Picts" as it is now. If you ask me, empires are for blobbing and much too mainstream, kingdoms are for badass hipsters ;)

EDIT: Norway is looking as if it'd be easily invaded in separate holy wars.



This.


Elias, I already mentioned this, but we cannot make the Holy Cathar Empire as to create it you need to have a religious head, means we have to be catholic.
 

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This.


Elias, I already mentioned this, but we cannot make the Holy Cathar Empire as to create it you need to have a religious head, means we have to be catholic.
We could convert to Catholism, create it, and then wait for the court chaplin to try and convert us back.
If we want to keep countries their own culture, the culture malus we'll get from installed vassal lords (norwegians for example) will be hard on us already. We don't have to hurry splitting off anything: if we don't create an empire, we won't get de jure vassal kings and then we can always grant them independence.

I kinda like the kingdom of "Picts" as it is now. If you ask me, empires are for blobbing and much too mainstream, kingdoms are for badass hipsters

EDIT: Norway is looking as if it'd be easily invaded in separate holy wars.
Norway is very weak but unfortunatly Sweden is rather strong. Could win but it would require twice as many men. Kingdoms are easier to manage it seems, but Scotland, England and Wales are very weak in CK2. Invading Norway could temporarily help, but it would need to be released before EU4.
 

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This.


Elias, I already mentioned this, but we cannot make the Holy Cathar Empire as to create it you need to have a religious head, means we have to be catholic.
Nah, just create custom/de jure empire and change its name. That's what I meant.
 

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No Empires, just lots of kingdoms. Remember, we don't have to beat them alone. If it's a Holy War, we'll always have help one way or another. Let's start a Cathar Coalition!