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cataphract retinue shows horse archer instead of heavy cavalry now!!!
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It has been created only recently or the unit has take serious losses. Either way, the unit model the army uses is determined by different weights for different troop types, They are not 1 per 1, because almost every army would show only Heavy Infantry model because they are almost almost the most numerous troop type. Therefore, they have given more weight for the rare types like Horse Archers and Heavy Cavalry. You can see this when you hire regular Cavalry retinue (100 HC + 400 LC), it shows the HC model when full.
As the unit takes losses and regenerates more soldiers, the weight ratio, and the decision what troop model is used, changes all the time. You can see tip in the balance when your army is fight but as it takes more losses, and the HI model changes to LC, for example.
I guess you have the situation there. While usually Cataphracts use HC model, the tip in the balance is in this case in favour of HA. If you just let it regenerate, it will show HC model in some phase. Just wait!
As the unit takes losses and regenerates more soldiers, the weight ratio, and the decision what troop model is used, changes all the time. You can see tip in the balance when your army is fight but as it takes more losses, and the HI model changes to LC, for example.
I guess you have the situation there. While usually Cataphracts use HC model, the tip in the balance is in this case in favour of HA. If you just let it regenerate, it will show HC model in some phase. Just wait!
You were right, they show only HA model, which is poor because Byzantine HC model is so badass... I'm not running any beta so this is 2.1.4.
e. Strangely enough, the regular Cavalry retinue employed by my vassals, show HC model, as it is usual, even when the portion of HC (100/500) is smaller than in Cataphracts (300/500).
e. Strangely enough, the regular Cavalry retinue employed by my vassals, show HC model, as it is usual, even when the portion of HC (100/500) is smaller than in Cataphracts (300/500).
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This looks to be fixed in the beta patch, 2.1.5.4. So it shouldn't be an issue once the patch goes live.
Additional info: If I change my capital to a Levantine county, Antioch, now my Cataphract army is showing Arabic Camel Cavalry model... Obviously the game thinks that all the special units are the same, perhaps my Horse Archers raised in Indian province would show as War Elephants...
After looking at this more closely, the issue is still there. However, we discussed this and we are looking to making some changes to how things work in the future regarding troops. So unfortunately, this is not going to be a priority at the moment.
I did bug your second issue, as I was indeed able to turn Horse Archers into War Elephants. But this might also not be a priority at the moment.
I did bug your second issue, as I was indeed able to turn Horse Archers into War Elephants. But this might also not be a priority at the moment.
Good to know you have noted the issue. I understand that this is not high on priority list but I hope it will be fixed in the future!