Casualties

[numark]

I've noticed in some screenshots that units now have a number attached to their information. Does this mean that during a battle, we will see the number adjust accordingly with how many casualties the unit is sustaining? If anyone has played Supreme Ruler, you will see what I mean. I think this is an awesome idea. This would allow you to see how good/bad your unit is doing in a particular battle. I would imagine it could show the effectiveness of any air force attacks on it as well. Would be cool to have a "Total Casualty Count" in a statistics window as well.

Is this going to be a feature?

 

[Polarisan]

I hope so, I remember playing SR 2020 and also seeing the numerical strength of a unit... and seeing how it diminishes in battle. I would like to see that in the game, but the game rocks as is

Cheers;
Nick

 

[Kriszo]

I think they said it wont

 

[Alexander Seil]

It would be a pop-up most likely, when you hover the cursor over the unit symbol in the battle screen.

 

[Wraith11B]

There was the EUIII-like pop-up after a battle that informed the player of how many casualties were sustained, but unless you keep track, I don't think that we're going to see the whole totals (unless you can in EUIII... I wouldn't know).

 

[unmerged(138740)]

There was the EUIII-like pop-up after a battle that informed the player of how many casualties were sustained, but unless you keep track, I don't think that we're going to see the whole totals (unless you can in EUIII... I wouldn't know).

You could in EU2 and IIRC EU3 also has combat statistics.

 

[Horst_Helios]

That would be really nice to see how much peoples I lost in the battle or in a war at all.

 

[unmerged(57661)]

I would also like to see the total casualties, mine and my enemies thus I would know if I played more successfuly my xth time as germany or russia or a minor nation.

 

[unmerged(10098)]

I recall in the video presentation where Johan as Norway invaded Sweden, there was a battle and at the end it showed the exact number of casualties on each side.

 

[unmerged(138364)]

I recall in the video presentation where Johan as Norway invaded Sweden, there was a battle and at the end it showed the exact number of casualties on each side.

what video is this in ?

 

[BlueWarrior]

what video is this in ?

Think it was this one: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399462

 

[zeekater]

what video is this in ?

This one

 

[unmerged(10098)]

Yeah, iirc Norway lost something like 600 troops in the battle.

 

[numark]

Cool, thanks guys

Glad to see casualties are implemented now. I'm assuming its connected to the "Strength" level of units, as in HOI2, but now its in numbers instead.

 

[Wraith11B]

I recall in the video presentation where Johan as Norway invaded Sweden, there was a battle and at the end it showed the exact number of casualties on each side.

There was the EUIII-like pop-up after a battle that informed the player of how many casualties were sustained, but unless you keep track, I don't think that we're going to see the whole totals (unless you can in EUIII... I wouldn't know).

...as I had said...

 

[Lazy_Boy]

Yeah there was a casualty window during Johan's invasion of Sweden. I'm very glad they added that. Now the question is how detailed the statistics page will be. I'm hoping full detail. Wounded, lost from attrition, surrendered, captured. Then of course totals of casualties/KIA. It seems like at least a total casualties figure has to be there's going to be battle loss statistics.

Also I hope total manpower is based off of real population. I think we've already heard that most manpower comes from draft laws so it would be quite easy to give realistic maximums. Like a base draft would give you maybe %5 of population with it inching up to %10-12 as you expand the age from desperation. That seems about the number most countries mobilized.

 

[Thomas Kenobi]

Yeah there was a casualty window during Johan's invasion of Sweden. I'm very glad they added that. Now the question is how detailed the statistics page will be. I'm hoping full detail. Wounded, lost from attrition, surrendered, captured. Then of course totals of casualties/KIA. It seems like at least a total casualties figure has to be there's going to be battle loss statistics.

I seriously doubt we will see that much detail in statistics page, because that info would end up being more flavour than substance. Especially, when it comes to wounded, if that info is displayed, then the game will have to keep track, when those wounded troopers return to active duty and I don't think that kind of detail is in the game.

Overall, what's most important is the total number of soldiers lost compared to your ability to replenish losses. Although that brings the interesting issue of "what about the vehicles". Does that 3000 represent both the soldiers and the tanks, APCs, etc...?

 

[unmerged(112615)]

This is a great feature. Reminds me of Defcon which mentioned how many million died each time a nuke hit. Casualty notifications makes losing even worse as you realize how many men you've sent into their deaths.

 

[unmerged(7806)]

to sweden? IMPOSSIBLE..

slander and lies

Yeah, iirc Norway lost something like 600 troops in the battle.

 

[zeekater]

Hopefully the numbers are added up in the statistics page. HoI2 had popups when you sank convoys with how many you sank but to get a total you needed to note them down yourself, so it's not certain that they will add this.

As for tanks and planes etc, I don't think the devs will add something like that. It could be done by having each tank brigade represent a number of tanks (100 for example), but that wouldn't be perfect either.