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Originally posted by DAW

This is TrainWreck's group. I have strong feelings about what rules make the game balanced and play out really well but I know that TrainWreck has to approve my suggestions.

As for a name: Laidback and Group is ok, don't think we should make ourselves US exclusive ( I understand what you were getting at though). :)

I think that since we are all relatively new to the MP game, you should probably let us know what works best. That way we can have some sort of a guideline as far as where to begin. Once we get some parameters established, it'll be easier to go forward.
 

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Are we still on for this Sunday? If so, do we have everyone who is participating and what country they want to play? I personally would rather play either Germany (obviously) or the US (which I think in MP has the potential to be fun and a critical part of the game. Unfortunately, the AI for the US lacks some purpose). Also, should we begin distributing email addresses amongst ourselves to get this ball rolling.

Thanks.
 

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Trainwreck sorry I missed the post, paradox being down and all.
 

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I can't say I'm inexperienced, but I most definately am casual. If you'd like a second experienced player, to help out the other side, I'm available during these times. I have no problem the minors like NatChi or whatever. Just thought it might be good to get 1 experienced gamer for the Axis and Allies. If not, thats cool too.
 

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Originally posted by Ihategfafb
If you'd like a second experienced player, to help out the other side, I'm available during these times.

Its ok with me, I'd rather have 8 players than not. TrainWreck will need to post a list of the current players he has accepted. I'll post later today with my suggested house rules.
 

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I am under the assumption we will be playing Sunday from 6-9. Trainwreck has already got my e-mail and I will ask him to forward it to everyone. I do not have any strong preferences to any countries, but I guess I would prefer to be the US.
 

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Trainwreck, i'll have to move back from your game. I cant start next weekend. I am going to Montreal, i have my tickets for the CFL eastern conference final.
If you need someone in 2 week, i'll gladly fill the spot as replacement!
Sorry for misleading you ! Have fun !

JgBaxter . i'll gladly join a canadian game. If its on sunday :D ...
 

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Sorry, been away from the computer for a couple days (amazing that can actually happen :D ). Anyway, first game for Nov. 9th at 6pm EST to 9pm EST using 1.05c, no other MODs.

My intent was to get a group of people together that could play on a regular basis, and not just limit it to the people that have posted here so far. I don't know if we will need to keep an official list eventually or not, but this works for now...

And, yes, Ihategfafb, you're welcome to play, even if you're experienced. My idea is to have a group that:
a) does not have to win so bad they get cranky if they are not;
b) does not break any house rules when no one will notice;
c) enjoys the game without trying to exploit everything (hopefully, house rules will cover this, though).

As for rules, I have read the DEG rules as a start. I am open to suggestions. My idea would be to start with the existing rules for other groups and decide what is needed and what is not. For the exp. players, we may need a little explanation on a few of them :p
 

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I'd like the SU, (big Surprize!), but will play any side.

House rules:
1. I see a lot of talk about attacking out of neutral countries, I assume the Neutral has granted access. So I propose that is a no-no.

2. I also see a lot of talk about tech trading, no gold shields and the like. So how about this,

1. No gold techs
2. Limited silver tech, maybe one per month?

Anything else critical?

Oh and yes, I am in for Sunday:D
 

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I can play Sundays

I've never played MP, played several SP games though....

I don't care which side I play on, I've only played UK, Italy and US in my SP games though....I would not be opposed to playing a weird Minor..


I have a dialup connection, but dont get booted off very often...

This sounds like a great chance for all of us to get some MP experience in a fun and friendly way!!
 

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I added you, Thrdarmy, to the list. Welcome to the adventure....

DAW, I am sort of hoping to start with a list of rules (yours, which I have not seen yet, or DEG's) and work from there. I do not want to re-invent the wheel, and I really don't know what issues come up. Are the ones you refer to online here?

For other new MPs like me, the DEG rules are online in this forum, and reading will give you some ideas of what 'exploits' are used and how they are avoided...although not all are exploits. We have to decide at some point whether we want a 'real' simulation, or just a game. I am not set one way or the other, but would rather the game be balanced as much as possible.

Regarding email - I have posted mine earlier (Trainwreck20 'at' Yahoo.com). If you want to be on the list, send me your email (I already have a couple). If you don't want it distributed to the other players, let me know.
 

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Before we start I think we should get the whole time zone thing established???

I just read the MP Etiquette thread, which was helpful!!:D


edit: removed silly mistake
 
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You are brave, Thrdarmy44, for posting your email...I have no idea how those little email search programs work, but the last time I posted mine, I got all sorts of new 'offers' :mad: .

But, if you could, send it to me at the above address so I can keep them in a file in my account, and you really may want to edit it and modify the format so a few of the search programs miss it :D .

Time zone we are using is EST...not sure what that is in GMT....GMT-5 I think, I will have to go check.
 

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Originally posted by TrainWreck
You are brave, Thrdarmy44, for posting your email...I have no idea how those little email search programs work, but the last time I posted mine, I got all sorts of new 'offers' :mad: .

But, if you could, send it to me at the above address so I can keep them in a file in my account, and you really may want to edit it and modify the format so a few of the search programs miss it :D .

Time zone we are using is EST...not sure what that is in GMT....GMT-5 I think, I will have to go check.

Trainwreck,

I sent you an email this morning from my Yahoo account. However, I'm sending it from work and sometimes the firewall does strange things. :p

If you could just let me know if you received it, I'd appreciate it.
 

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I'd like to play if possible in the group. Saturday is better, but it looks like Sunday 6-9 is a go here.

I have only one game of MP experience.

jgbaxter HOI players association site has some good looking house rules that look fair.
 

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Rule questions....

Here are some rules plagerized from elsewhere (DEG rules) and some of the questions I have:

Nations played: Besides the 6 major nations (Germany, Italy, Japan, UK, USA, Soviets) we will accept the following nations: France, any CW minor (usually Canada or Australia), any Axis minor (usually Romania). We will NOT accept any Latin American/South American countries or Nationalist China.

Sounds as good as any, but why not N.China? Are there some issues there? Does it make it too hard on the Japanese?

Resources and supplies: You can only send to nations in your alliance (exception: USA and CW nations may send to Soviets if Soviets are at war with Germany AND if the war was started by the Axis).

Sounds realistic, but is it necessary? Is there some exploit associated with this?

Events: Players are allowed to choose any of the choices available during an event or election (exception: France must accept Vichy if the Germans offer this, Japan must choose to become Paternal Autocrat).

Again, is there some imbalance with these selections?

Major bugs: For major bugs such as important elections or events not happening and units that vanish, we will strive for an immediate editing of the save file and a re-host. If Japan has not had it’s election by 1 September 1937, we will edit the save file. Other events will be edited directly if they do not happen (includes Anschluss, Treaty of Munich, End of Czechoslovakia, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, Danzig or War)

Well, I suppose these are good ideas....although I do not know when they are SUPPOSED to occur. Will need some help here (DAW...?:D ).


Military control: If you assume military control over an AI nation you may not use this nations units at the expense of the host nations security (example: the UK takes control of AI France and moves the entire French Army to UK mainland).

I was thinking you could not take military control of an AI at all. Would that be a problem?

Tech sharing to human nations: Not allowed (exception: CW nations may send both silver and gold tech to other CW nations, even if they are human controlled).

We may want to discuss this.....

There are more rules there, but these are the ones I had questions about (although some are discussed later in the DEG rules thread).