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Hmm, by 1450 Spain couldn't get too many gold provinces (no explorers, you see). Yes, they already own one, but that's just one. They seem to be a medium sized country, which would make tech costs a tad bit higher than, say, Portugal... but France is larger later on, and still has incredibly high tech...
They are in the Latin tech group, so that's not it...
Enrique V (1454-1474) does have a MIL value of 3... but the monarch before him, Juan II (1406-1453), has a respectable 5...
I'd chalk this one up to bad slider management by the AI.
They are in the Latin tech group, so that's not it...
Enrique V (1454-1474) does have a MIL value of 3... but the monarch before him, Juan II (1406-1453), has a respectable 5...
I'd chalk this one up to bad slider management by the AI.
You have inflation from the beginning when you play Castillia. You need to promote some officials to get back to normal inflation.
Soldiers are expensive for Castillia, too, (slider settings) so it's very likely that the AI is getting some inflation if they raise some armies.
Later in the game there are also some events for Spain to get more inflation but I don't think that inflation is the problem. If the human player has an inflation of 0% the rest of the world has 3% no matter what their events/sliders are.
The main problem for Castilia/spain is the costs for maintainig armies => less money left for developing tech.
Soldiers are expensive for Castillia, too, (slider settings) so it's very likely that the AI is getting some inflation if they raise some armies.
Later in the game there are also some events for Spain to get more inflation but I don't think that inflation is the problem. If the human player has an inflation of 0% the rest of the world has 3% no matter what their events/sliders are.
The main problem for Castilia/spain is the costs for maintainig armies => less money left for developing tech.
..... yes and the costs for armies are higher. Castillia/Spain has to pay more money for the same amount of troops compared to most other countries - and those armies aren't even better because the sliders are bad for land-combat.
I wish we could help spain out! or castile if you prefer.. 
I guess part of the problem might be the AI spain just doesnt have enough......pizazz! They never go for all their rightful territory.
but they sure do love eating up fez, don't they?
I guess part of the problem might be the AI spain just doesnt have enough......pizazz! They never go for all their rightful territory.
but they sure do love eating up fez, don't they?
Originally posted by jaron
I wish we could help spain out! or castile if you prefer..
I guess part of the problem might be the AI spain just doesnt have enough......pizazz! They never go for all their rightful territory.
but they sure do love eating up fez, don't they?
Lol I know!
They go after North Africa much more so than the Americas. I always see the Incas and Aztecs live throughout the rest of the game usually...
One part of Tech costs are based on how many provences you have, Spain midway has many TP and colonies (less then 700) so their tech cost to upgrade is astronomical, along with high inflation cripples Spains tech. I also noticed Englands tech is low for a long time
TP's and colonies<700 don't rize your tech level costs. Provinces >=700 do.
Having a lot of small colonies actually lowers your costs to reach the next tech level because they generate (production) income. Usually I'm only rizing colonies above 200 when I need a place to raise armies.
(If the colony has positive growth, of course).
Inflation, as I said above, is compared to the human player. Let's say the human player has an inflation of 1% (that's what I usally have). Every other nation will have 3-4% no matter what their treasure slider is set to.
Then you have several peaks... like Spain has 30% inflation for one year. That's an event and directly the next year it declines to the 'normal' level. The AI is cheating here becuase in EUI this was one of the main reasons for nations to die (bankrupt).
So, not much imfluence from inflation, but if Spain is going to spend 100% of their treasury on armies then they have nothing left to spend on tech.
That's the main reason.
Ofcourse taking those North African provinces does not help them either. Since it increases their tech cost without adding sufficently to the economy.
I'd rather say it's the high degree of intolerance that makes research expensive. The Torquemada event doesn't help either.
Spain explained
The problem is, basically, Spain goes after North Africa- exactly as she did historically. Historically, Spain spent virtually all her money in the Mediterranean, not conquering some pathetic natives in the Indies- that was subcontracted. As far as I can tell, at no point was there a Spanish army large enough to seige even a minimal fortress in Mexico, much less fight off 38,000 natives while doing so. When I've played Castille, it seems I need to have a force of at least 20,000 to conquer the Aztecs in any reasonable time. I imagine the computer, given it's massive innefficiency in regards to attrition, would take far more, as well as settling for all those 300 ducat peace offers without territory.
Of course, in a related matter, the fact that Spain's exceptionally well trained, equipped and led infantry were virtually unstoppable on the field until 1643 isn't reflected at all, except in the price tag (and even then, only compared to the even cheaper worthless infantry of the other powers). This leads to their lower tech troops (considering the overall poverty of the Iberian provinces vice France) being outnumbered and outfought much sooner than historically.
Finally, of course, the computer spends way too much on Sole Defender of the Faith and large standing armies, and too little on Manufacturies.
just my opinion
The problem is, basically, Spain goes after North Africa- exactly as she did historically. Historically, Spain spent virtually all her money in the Mediterranean, not conquering some pathetic natives in the Indies- that was subcontracted. As far as I can tell, at no point was there a Spanish army large enough to seige even a minimal fortress in Mexico, much less fight off 38,000 natives while doing so. When I've played Castille, it seems I need to have a force of at least 20,000 to conquer the Aztecs in any reasonable time. I imagine the computer, given it's massive innefficiency in regards to attrition, would take far more, as well as settling for all those 300 ducat peace offers without territory.
Of course, in a related matter, the fact that Spain's exceptionally well trained, equipped and led infantry were virtually unstoppable on the field until 1643 isn't reflected at all, except in the price tag (and even then, only compared to the even cheaper worthless infantry of the other powers). This leads to their lower tech troops (considering the overall poverty of the Iberian provinces vice France) being outnumbered and outfought much sooner than historically.
Finally, of course, the computer spends way too much on Sole Defender of the Faith and large standing armies, and too little on Manufacturies.
just my opinion
Re: Spain explained
Yea. I think that just about somes it up...I wish something could be done to help the situations...
Yea. I think that just about somes it up...I wish something could be done to help the situations...
The vaunted Spanish infantry, feared throughout the world, are a shadow of their former selves in EUII.
indeed..
it is clear to see that France has ended up being the pre-eminent EUII superpower, when historically SPain was more important.
Chalk this one up to game balance i think.
I don;t mind if France is sometimes more successful, the problem is that it is mostly more successful..
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it is clear to see that France has ended up being the pre-eminent EUII superpower, when historically SPain was more important.
Chalk this one up to game balance i think.
I don;t mind if France is sometimes more successful, the problem is that it is mostly more successful..
Heretic
no, really,
this is fairly serious,
since the wiode variety of meta-histories that EUII creates, whilst not being supposed to be accurate, should fall within the general conditions that actually prevailed.
this is why i am saying that it is ok that france is strong, but spain really isn't as big as it should be..
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this is fairly serious,
since the wiode variety of meta-histories that EUII creates, whilst not being supposed to be accurate, should fall within the general conditions that actually prevailed.
this is why i am saying that it is ok that france is strong, but spain really isn't as big as it should be..
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