Carolingian Empire requirements

[de Clare]

Since CK2+ has a more historical Carolingian Empire, I wanted to do that playthrough and see it rise and fall apart and then maybe have a branch dynasty survive as one of the sub-kingdoms. The biggest problem, however, is I don't know how to form it.

I'm able to form the Kingdoms of France, Lothrangia, Burgundy, Aquitaine, Bavaria and take Saxony and Italy. I can get Charlemagne to get a good relation with the Pope. But, I can't seem to get a similar event to the HRE and the only Empire I'm able to make is the Frankish EMpire.

 

[Whizzer]

You can find 'form_carolingian_empire' in 'realm_decisions.txt'. Hopefully that helps.

 

[de Clare]

Is that in the folders of the game? In the "decisions" found in the "intrigue" tab I've yet to see it. I can just use counsel commands and form it that way, I've found, but I'm using the latest BETA and I'm not sure if that's the cause?

The cadet dynasty decision also has a tendency to vanish after a few years. Fortunately, I work around that with a seperate mod

 

[Whizzer]

It's a base game file, but you'll have to search in the mod's files, of course. If you're using another mod that also modifies the file, that could explain why it's not there.

 

[de Clare]

So I checked. Both HRE and Carolingian are in the text. Do you know what might be blocking them. I'm currently running improved genetics, nicknames+++, Real Father + Visible Health and Fertility, Regent Assume Power, and Reveal Cuckold Children.

There are maybe a dozen other mods I'm not using but are in the folder. I've been experimenting by giving Otto I Italy, but still getting no realm decision to even give the option to form the HRE

 

[de Clare]

So, I tried deleting any storytelling or major change mod, other than the GoT ones. Still, the decision to form the HRE will not pop up for Otto I. Am I better off uninstalling everything, reinstalling and downloading CK2+ first?

 

[Whizzer]

The HRE is not at all the same empire as the Carolingian Empire. The Carolingian Empire is only available for Karlings. The 3.2 Iron Century update compatibility patch was fairly quickly thrown together after we had already begun rewriting the entire mod, so things may not all be working as they do in vanilla.

The mods you're using probably don't affect these decisions, but it's always best to be sure. Try disabling all other mods (deleting isn't necessary).

 

[de Clare]

I understand that HRE and Carolingian Empires aren't the same. This has just been affecting both. I disables all other mods and still the realm decisions don't pop up to create either empire.

 

[Whizzer]

I tested both decisions yesterday and both worked for me. Are you using the latest 4.08 beta on version 3.3.0 of CK2? The latest update for old Plus was released just yesterday.

 

[de Clare]

I'm using the Beta version 408 found on page 12 (#232) of the thread titled CK2+ Download Thread. Where would I find the newest version, as I notice that that thread has been locked and not posted in since October?

 

[de Clare]

Thank you for your patience by the way

 

[Whizzer]

You'll find a link in the Master Thread.