Sir Humphrey said:
Well no offense Permangante, but those threads were over back March.
Also regaurding Menzies, he did not seek a cabinet position.
The paradox researches got mixed up again:
I was under the distinct impression that Menzies being the brown nose that he was offered himself to Churchill has a minister at some stage but nobody in the Conservatives was stupid enough to arrange a seat in the house of commons for him to occupy. So nothing happened.
It is perfectly reasonable that Menzies could have joined the British cabinet if Churchill had supported him. So it is fair enough to have him as a ministerial option in the game. One has to bear in mind that almost all Australian Prime Ministers have always been to ready and happy to betray national sovereignty at the drop of a hat to any bidder. Curtin was no different, he simply handed the country over to an incompetent American narcissist as opposed to a Pommy one.
For those who prefer sources to opinions (as if sources have no bias :rofl: )
check out the following from my alma mater
http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/ncas/teach/unit/aus/aus1010wk08.html
Menzies visited Britain to represent Australia's war interests at the heart of the Empire, and thought that Churchill's uncompromising policy of total victory over Germany was putting the survival of the Empire at risk. He was deeply impressed by the courage of ordinary British people, and made many speeches telling them how, in their darkest hour, their kinfolk across the sea were with them. Menzies also recorded meetings with Britain's political elite. Some were highly critical of Churchill's prosecution of the war and courted Menzies as a possible challenger, particularly if he could convince Churchill of the need for a permanent Dominions representative on the British War Cabinet. Fleetingly, in early 1941, the prospect of achieving political power in England dangled before Menzies' eyes. It would have been the highest achievement for a boy who had begun dreaming of the glories of Empire in tiny Jeparit. But it was not to be. Churchill became aware of the manoeuvring, and Menzies had to return to Australia 'with just one sick feeling in my heart, that I must come back to my own country and play politics'.
Well perhaps he should be on the list of alternate Prime Ministers instead!
As a post script, at lot of the personal color footage shot of Winston at home in his coveralls that gets used all the time in docos, was shot by Menzies for his home movies, ah a tourist ahead of his time ...
