Capacities: Victoria 3 Expert Discussion (Spudgun)

[Moppy771]

The biggest (dedicated) Victoria 2 youtuber and other prominent Victoria 2 modders and players giving their thoughts on the Capacities dev diary. Quite a critical video.

"Ok, things are starting to get... interesting. The Victoria expert panel discusses dev diary #2... Capacities. It's all been fun and games until now, but capacity is a mechanic I'm sceptical on. The most informed and experienced group when it comes to Victoria 2 is going to discuss “capacity” in depth, more detail and expert analysis than you can get anywhere else!"

EDIT: To be more specific, these people are

Nurse Reno: vic2 mod creator, probably understands the economy more than the devs do

zombiefreak: vic2 mod creator

spudgun, asquith, piechucker: people who have played vic2 for a very long time

 

[Moppy771]

@SanicK why the dislike within minutes of me posting a discussion video that, at the time of me posting this thread, is still live and has gone on for more than an hour and will go on for up to 3?

 

[Ferrous Will]

@SanicK why the dislike within minutes of me posting a discussion video that, at the time of me posting this thread, is still live and has gone on for more than an hour?

they were being doomers is my guess

 

[Moppy771]

they were being doomers is my guess

I think it's important to not just be yes-men while a game is still in development, least we have another early launch Imperator.

 

[Cymsdale]

"Experts"

 

[wilcoxchar]

Oh I thought this was going to be the devs talking about it or at least actual journalists or game media talking about it, not self-proclaimed "experts" just because they have a youtube channel.

 

[alexlock]

"Experts"

Considering that one of them made popular multiplayer mod - yea, their opinion is certainly interesting.

Anyway, i don't see any point in attacking them, instead of the points they raise. Granted, it's a 2 hour or so stream, so some bulletpoints from OP would be much appreciated.

 

[panda_Express12]

@SanicK why the dislike within minutes of me posting a discussion video that, at the time of me posting this thread, is still live and has gone on for more than an hour and will go on for up to 3?

This isn't Reddit. These are not dislikes, they are "respectful disagreements."
I just disagree with some of the points in the video. Nothing personal against you.

 

[Moppy771]

Considering that one of them made popular multiplayer mod - yea, their opinion is certainly interesting.

Anyway, i don't see any point in attacking them, instead of the points they raise. Granted, it's a 2 hour or so stream, so some bulletpoints from OP would be much appreciated.

I'm still watching it at this time, just got home from work. Their past videos were pretty good.

 

[Ferrous Will]

This isn't Reddit. These are not dislikes, they are "respectful disagreements."
I just disagree with some of the points in the video. Nothing personal against you.

Same, overall they are too overtly negative for my taste. And most of the points they brought up i don't really care for.

I do however agree that capitalists should be able to build stuff on their own. That is rather the whole point.

 

[cdub8d]

I agree with a lot that was said in the video. But like what was also said we don't have much info rn.

 

[Moppy771]

This isn't Reddit. These are not dislikes, they are "respectful disagreements."
I just disagree with some of the points in the video. Nothing personal against you.

Yes but can't be possible this fast because the video is a stream which is hours long and still ongoing. The "disagrees" are kneejerk and this represents a worrying religious climate surrounding discussion of capacities.

 

[alexlock]

Oh I thought this was going to be the devs talking about it or at least actual journalists or game media talking about it, not self-proclaimed "experts" just because they have a youtube channel.

You know, today i, personally, place more trust in players, that spend countless hours playing the game, rather than journalists, that at best play the game just enough to make a generalisation, or, at worst, bait readers with garbage articles.

 

[Yugo28]

Oh I thought this was going to be the devs talking about it or at least actual journalists or game media talking about it, not self-proclaimed "experts" just because they have a youtube channel.

Show me a journalist talking about a game, that wasn't payed to say what he did, and had actual constructive criticism and not just being a yes-man

 

[wilcoxchar]

You know, today i, personally, place more trust in players, that spend countless hours playing the game, rather than journalists, that at best play the game just enough to make a generalisation, or, at worst, bait readers with garbage articles.

Then right now you should trust neither, because the people in this video have played Victoria 3 exactly as much as any games journalist has.

 

[alexlock]

Then right now you should trust neither, because the people in this video have played Victoria 3 exactly as much as any games journalist has.

They don't state what V3 IS. They discuss, what it, in their opinion, should or should not be, and voice their fears for the game. I don't want to demean your point, but you should check, what you are talking about, before posting.

 

[Kekistanium]

Nurse Reno: vic2 mod creator, probably understands the economy more than the devs do

zombiefreak: vic2 mod creator

spudgun, asquith, piechucker: people who have played vic2 for a very long time

I'd say they're quite qualified to talk about these things.

 

[Spartakusbund]

Nurse Reno: vic2 mod creator, probably understands the economy more than the devs do

zombiefreak: vic2 mod creator

spudgun, asquith, piechucker: people who have played vic2 for a very long time

I'd say they're quite qualified to talk about these things.

Too bad they didn’t bother to actually learn about Vicky 3 before they started talking about it. They were getting things wrong left and right. It was obvious most of them had actually read the dev diary and only one of them had read any of the followup comments from the Devs.

I shut the video off halfway through their discussion of Admin Capacities.

 

[Kekistanium]

Too bad they didn’t bother to actually learn about Vicky 3 before they started talking about it. They were getting things wrong left and right. It was obvious most of them had actually read the dev diary and only one of them had read any of the followup comments from the Devs.

I shut the video off halfway through their discussion of Admin Capacities.

it would be a lot more easier if they included ALL the information in the dev diary, as opposed to, yknow,having people forum dive. This issue is also brought up in the stream itself and they also look at the dev comments.

 

[Yugo28]

Nurse Reno: vic2 mod creator, probably understands the economy more than the devs do

zombiefreak: vic2 mod creator

spudgun, asquith, piechucker: people who have played vic2 for a very long time

I'd say they're quite qualified to talk about these things.

Too bad they didn’t bother to actually learn about Vicky 3 before they started talking about it. They were getting things wrong left and right. It was obvious most of them had actually read the dev diary and only one of them had read any of the followup comments from the Devs.

I shut the video off halfway through their discussion of Admin Capacities.

Just shows, you didn't really watch it, because they read all the mod responses