Making your own dynasty from scratch is half the fun of CK2 for me. Get bored quickly if I have to play a preset one..
Can't we use Ruler designer with IronMan/Achievement enable?
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You know, it's not so easy when my realm is falling apart because of my genius king dying in battle or after a period of illness or something even more dumb in age of 22
This is an accurate description of my first ironman game. First Haraldr Fairhair, king of Norway, died in a suspicious accident at age 39. He was succeeded by his five year old son Halfdan Haraldrsson, who also became king of Sweden before dying after a period of illness at age 22. He was succeeded by his 3 year old daughter Thora (I don't have a thorn key) Halfdansdottir and the realm fell apart.
Yeah, and I'm sure that if you hadn't played an ironman game you would have reloaded. And that's my point
Interesting. I feel it's more fun to play a dynasty that i know of and show them glory before their time and rule an empire they couldn't imagine or the like.
It's not quite the same but a converted ck2 game isn't eligible for ironmanmode in eu4.
But besides the obvious, that if allowed you shouldn't be able to change religion and culture the greatest thing is that you can create an incredibly young charcter when the original holder of these titles was quite old or the opposite which ever was the better in that situation.
You can use the customiser to take a fictional pre-set dynasty and change their name and CoA to something you like. That's one way of getting around the problem.
There's only really one achievement that could theoretically be cheesed with the Ruler Designer, and that's Prestor John. Pretty much any other achievement is still gonna be some work or impossible (such as the three conquest of England achievements). And if you're going to talk difficulty, need I remind you that you can do Ironman on Very Easy? And how is using the Ruler Designer fundamentally different from RNG scumming a ruler without predetermined stats until you get a really good ruler?
You could take a minor dynasty with few or no relatives and use the customizer to change your CoA and dynasty name.
Work. In the end its kinda the same if you're playing cards and you say "ok this one counts" when you start with a good hand or alternately you just give yourself the good hand to begin with. Arguably if you did that nobody whould play with you in both cases and as somebody said before it's essentially editing the files in a clean way with an ingame interface.
Yeah, but it's not fundamentally different. Similarly, I can also keep rerolling Stamford Bridge until the stacks come out more favorably.
This isn't right - I don't believe this was intended it's likelly a side effect from saving restrictions. It's not cheating to use an official DLC and really.... the achivements are neat but I like to design my dinasty from scratch. The whole patch is a mess right now and has bigger problems - I have faith that Paradox will solve this.
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That is exactly what I was going to say. Modding it even a little bit would change part of what an ironman game is meant to be.
What, my converted game to EU4 won't give me achievements? Why is pdox torturing me? /sarcasm
You can start as a count or as an emperor - it doesn't matter for achievements that are not about promotion. If you have the Old Gods DLC you have 200 extra years - much bigger "cheat" that designing your ruler RPG style.
I like doing both and then branching variables off of each. For example, a fun start is to make a customized Alfred under the standard Althelred in England.
Or you can take the Maimed trait off of Carloman(sp) so he survives as he did historically.
I guess this is the essence of why achievements don't make sense to me. I can understand both sides in this thread because to me both sides have merit.
I love you guys, but, man, do I hate you guys.
I can't believe this is a cause for outrage. It's derptastic that we have threads in the forums where people scream about ahistorical outcomes and then, in the next thread, complain that they can't make a Zoroastrian Irish character and get their precious Steam achievements.
It's deeply silly that ironman mode even needed inclusion. It's just not hard to save scum. What is wrong with people?
How can this be everyone's favorite game, but, with these new features we didn't have previously, and an obviously reasonable asterisk regarding a tiny perk that doesn't even change the game is considered a deal breaker?
Get a grip. Here's a suggestion: just set Steam to the 1.111 beta, and play your game the way you were playing it yesterday, before Paradox ruined your life with new content.
I love you guys, but, holy mackerel, get some fucking perspective.
I can't believe this is a cause for outrage. It's derptastic that we have threads in the forums where people scream about ahistorical outcomes and then, in the next thread, complain that they can't make a Zoroastrian Irish character and get their precious Steam achievements.
It's deeply silly that ironman mode even needed inclusion. It's just not hard to save scum. What is wrong with people?
How can this be everyone's favorite game, but, with these new features we didn't have previously, and an obviously reasonable asterisk regarding a tiny perk that doesn't even change the game is considered a deal breaker?
Get a grip. Here's a suggestion: just set Steam to the 1.111 beta, and play your game the way you were playing it yesterday, before Paradox ruined your life with new content.
I love you guys, but, holy mackerel, get some fucking perspective.
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JRHaggs, the game isn't ruined. It's just not as good as it should be and we are giving feedback. It either was a bad design decision or a bug - that hasn't been cleared yet. There appears to be a whole lot of bugs introduced in the new patch that are more urgent to fix but I got hit with this one - the "I can't start the game" ones that I've read about are far worse. I haven't tried to edit save game files - that is cheating. This patch protects against that? Not likelly I supose. So I can just edit a save file and get the "precious" achivement but I cannot start a game with a perfectly valid character from RD and enjoy the new ironman made that has me second guessing my every move for the sake of my family? Because I was a massive "saver" and really enjoy the new Ironman made.... it makes me fell more "alive" in the game - rebelling against your liege is a tough decision now. It's bull that they did not support RD because of imbalance or they made a really bad call because Old Gods is more imbalancing than this - or editing a save file. Not going to uninstall the game or even revert it to 1.111 but if they made a bad call in my opinion I must say it no? If you guys don't what to play Ironman with RD fine but let people play the game as desired. I'll likelly get the achivements soon anyway but even if I have the achivements I won't be able to play the game on Ironman after that - and no it isn't the same with "just don't save" - unlike the Achivements that remain EXACTLY the save weather RD is enabled or not.
Frankly, I just want to be able to play with my custom ruler in Ironman mode, with or without achievements. Achievements are all well and good, and they're a nice little feature, but I'd be perfectly happy with Achievements being disabled if I start an Ironman game with a custom ruler. Sort of like how Europa Universalis achievements are disabled if you switch countries in an old save. So as far as I'm concerned, Paradox, just make it to where I can play a custom ruler in Ironman - achievements or no - and I will love you forever.
P.S. - Why couldn't you have an Achievement Friendly Ruler Designer setting that only allows you to change your custom ruler's appearance, name, and coat of arms? (In other words, the Ruler Designer could have a setting that only allows cosmetic changes to a ruler.) The ruler attributes page could be unalterable and based on the default ruler we're designing over (so age, traits, culture, religion, children, etc. can't be altered from what we'd otherwise get with the default character, or if they are, then achievements would be disabled.) In any case, I'm at least holding out for the simple solution of allowing custom rulers in Ironman, but disabling achievements.
P.S. - Why couldn't you have an Achievement Friendly Ruler Designer setting that only allows you to change your custom ruler's appearance, name, and coat of arms? (In other words, the Ruler Designer could have a setting that only allows cosmetic changes to a ruler.) The ruler attributes page could be unalterable and based on the default ruler we're designing over (so age, traits, culture, religion, children, etc. can't be altered from what we'd otherwise get with the default character, or if they are, then achievements would be disabled.) In any case, I'm at least holding out for the simple solution of allowing custom rulers in Ironman, but disabling achievements.
I never paid extra for the console to be active. Nobody's forcing you to use the ruler designer, if you want to use the RD then use the RD. The achievements arent achievements, they're a portion of the game that should not restrict independently purchased portions of the game.
Yes, this is possible though its more like the RD should be rebalanced to be a bit tighter in it's points. I'd even go so far as to remove all genetic traits from it and set traits like Sayyid to have 30+ point costs on them. That said you cannot provide players with DLC and then remove the ability to use that DLC through future patches. It's unethical from a business standpoint.
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The thing is, you can play just like ironman mode and use the ruler designer. Just don't reload. It's that easy.
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