Can't offer vassilation

[Muizer]

Your claims, that majors vassalise minors and economic might is the criteria, are obviously not true

AFAIK it is to the point that if two countries meet all the other criteria, the opportunity to offer vasallization is given exclusively to the country that has the stronger economy (trade not included!).

Muizer

 

[Truchses]

I surely will never fully understand the Paradox economic concept. I always saw the bavarian provinces having more population and being richer than the austrian provinces. Still there can be some less obvious reason. But I would have expected the vassalisation to happen the other way around. And additionally I think it works anyway only for the AI.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

This might apply in many cases, maybe in most cases, but not always. I had different experiences.

Again, as I already wrote above:

1) Playing Austria with most german provinces, Brandenburg never accepted my alliance offer. I had to DoW and force vassalise them.

2) AI 2-province Austria diplo-vassalised AI 2-province Bavaria. Surely in this case Austria has neither more provinces nor more economic might.

Your claims, that majors vassalise minors and economic might is the criteria, are obviously not true, at least not in every case. If the game engine is expected to work as you say, then it is obviously broken.

First of all, what does an alliance offer have to do with anything in question here? If you mean they never accepted your diplo-vassalization offer, well then so what? It is well known that diplo-vassalization is often tough to obtain, especially when you aren't overwhelmingly larger (I mean on the order of a magnitude or more) than the target. Do a search in the forum and see what I mean. I usually don't even bother with the concept until I'm late in the game and getting ready to munch up the left-over small fry.

Second, Austria as a 2 province country may well have had more economic power than a 2 province Bavaria. It would depend on which two provinces, what they have in the way of relative tech levels, etc. Austria may well have had its CoT in Wien by that time; that alone would tip the balance.

I'm going to suggest that, before you make rash assertions, you do some searching and reading in this forum. The game has been out, oh, roughly 4 years, IIRC, and there are a LOT of people who have invested a VERY large amount of time learning how it works. Granted, they don't know everything, but they often don't post these concepts until extensive testing has occurred. And the plural of "anecdote" is never data.