Can't create the Kingdom of Saxony

[MagnusDux]

I started in the old gods start as an anglo-saxon, was going for the 'Saxons everywere, unite!' achievement. I thoght i could still create the kingdom of saxony, it said i needed the county of anhalt and saxon/anglo-saxon culture. I conquered anhalt but can't create the title... is this a bug? or do i have to start in the charlemagne start?

 

[Asiak]

This is from the wiki but its outdated I think:

"Requires starting the game as Anglo-Saxon or Saxon, but does not require remaining such. Since the Kingdom of Saxony only exists in 769 and the Catholics surrounding Saxony are very strong, it may be easier to start this as an Anglo-Saxon and create the Kingdom of England and then work into Saxony. Note that creation of the Kingdom of Saxony title requires Saxon culture (not Anglo-Saxon). Alternatively: As Saxony, survive the initial attack by letting attrition wear away Charles. Then subjugate Denmark and culture-shift to Norse for the free boats. Once the Germanic coastal CB becomes available, conquering England is easy."

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Achievements
Edit:Oh nevermind this is reffering to the achievment and your question is about the kingdom.

I think, thiiiiiiiink they made it so that anglo saxons can create the kingdomt in a later patch and the tool tip does suggest this. So I don't think that's your problem?

Do you control the entire county of Anhalt every barony? Where did you see this requirement for Anhalt?

 

[Asiak]

The wiki under titles - http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Kingdoms seems to imply you need to start in 779

But confusingly the code doesn't -

Spoiler: k_saxony code

k_saxony = {
color={ 120 25 25 }
culture = old_saxon

capital = 310 # Anhalt

allow = {
OR = {
culture = old_saxon
culture = saxon
}
}

catholic = 3000 # Crusade target weight
norse_pagan_reformed = 500 # Crusade target weight

Old_Saxon does not equal Anglo Saxon both are present in the culture files, I think Old Saxon is just a place holder for history files. It seems based on the code that you need to be Saxon to create the Kingdom of Saxony still. Despite the Saxony achievement being obtainable if you start as an anglo saxon, it does seem like you need to eventually go Saxon to create Saxony.

 

[MagnusDux]

Do you control the entire county of Anhalt every barony?

Yes

Where did you see this requirement for Anhalt?

It appeared above 'Special Creation Conditions', before i got the county.

Old_Saxon does not equal Anglo Saxon both are present in the culture files, I think Old Saxon is just a place holder for history files. It seems based on the code that you need to be Saxon to create the Kingdom of Saxony still. Despite the Saxony achievement being obtainable if you start as an anglo saxon, it does seem like you need to eventually go Saxon to create Saxony.

I think old_saxon and saxon in the files are the saxon and anglo-saxon cultures in the game respectively, and according to the picture i should be able to create the title...

 

[Maeldun]

I think old_saxon and saxon in the files are the saxon and anglo-saxon cultures in the game respectively, and according to the picture i should be able to create the title...

Nope. You need to be Saxon, not Anglo-Saxon.

 

[Kongming Jaeger]

According to the code and the picture you should be perfectly able to create the kingdom. Also you have the piety, money and prestige.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the kingdom is titular ?

 

[MagnusDux]

Nope. You need to be Saxon, not Anglo-Saxon.

According to the code and the picture you should be perfectly able to create the kingdom. Also you have the piety, money and prestige.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the kingdom is titular ?

But you can create titular titles right? One of my vassals even created the titular duchy of powys...

 

[SaphireSeas]

I think old_saxon and saxon in the files are the saxon and anglo-saxon cultures in the game respectively, and according to the picture i should be able to create the title...

You are correct.
old_saxon => Saxon Culture
saxon => Anglo-Saxon Culture
I have no idea why you cannot create that title. I suggest reporting it as a bug.

It appeared above 'Special Creation Conditions', before i got the county.

But you can create titular titles right?

As long as you hold the capital(In the case of k_saxony, that is Anhalt), you can create titular titles unless they say you can't.
eg search Saruhan in the title search and it'll probably say creation is allowed: (*) Never

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

Hmm...not sure , but what about the duke title of saxony ?
Don't you need to control that too or it not existing ?

edit:
MIght be it's only intended for the Charlegane start though, as you suggested.

Maybe this in the history:

781.1.1 = {
holder = 0
active = no

keeps it creatable only in that bookmark, but then it probably shouldn't be visible for you.

 

[Asiak]

Maybe its because your over the demesne limit.

 

[MagnusDux]

Maybe its because your over the demesne limit.

i don't think that affects title creation

 

[LumberKing]

Maybe this in the history:

781.1.1 = {
holder = 0
active = no

keeps it creatable only in that bookmark, but then it probably shouldn't be visible for you.

This. Like the Empire of Germania, the title becomes uncreatable if you start after the Charlemagne bookmark (which is dumb in my opinion). It is possible to unlock by simply modding the savegame file, but since you're on Ironman, you are unfortunately out of luck.