"Cannot upgrade event ships" ...really, Paradox?

[Mitchz95]

I mean, maybe some people enjoy having ships permanently stuck with Warp Drive I and no sensors at all, but I somehow doubt they're in the majority.

What's the point of salvaging that gas giant cruiser, or reactivating that old pirate shipyard, if we can't upgrade the ships to our current level of technology? We used to be able to do it. What changed?

 

[bobsyouruncle1]

AFAIK, you were never able to upgrade event ships in the first place. As far as the point of it is concerned, the point of these is to be rewarded for taking a risk by receiving some ships/a ship which is powerful for a time. In the end, by the mid-late game, these ships would not make much of a difference either way...

 

[Xenith_Shadow]

The reason for not being able to upgrade the crusiers is the the first time you upgrade the fleet your nice crusier you got was in early in the game it would get set the base crusiers with lvl 1 weapons and no sheilds. Although i would like the ability to at least update the drives.

 

[Me_]

You can send them to run around systems looking for the Dimensional Horror and not feel bad when they find it .

AFAIK, you were never able to upgrade event ships in the first place. As far as the point of it is concerned, the point of these is to be rewarded for taking a risk by receiving some ships/a ship which is powerful for a time. In the end, by the mid-late game, these ships would not make much of a difference either way...

Some event ships were upgradable, I think the Unbidden science ship could be upgraded.

There really should be a project to upgrade Dreadnaught engines once you get Jump Drive.

 

[Tokolosk]

If you can salvage the ship, fly the ship, shoot its weapons and operate its systems then surely, suuuurely you should be able to replace the parts with newer advanced tech.

Come on Paradox! Make it so!

 

[Hopit]

Personally, the only event ship I bother with is the dreadnought, and even then I wait untill I have jump drive tech (because otherwise it gets warp/hyperdrive/wormhole)

Everything else I just go:
Oh, that ship *disband*

 

[TheDeadlyShoe]

If you can salvage the ship, fly the ship, shoot its weapons and operate its systems then surely, suuuurely you should be able to replace the parts with newer advanced tech.

Come on Paradox! Make it so!

Billions of people use computing devices without the least clue how to improve them... But aside from the thematic considerations there are technical difficulties.

Conventional race ships all use equal templates. If you get some other-race ships from integration, you can still upgrade them to your design, even though they still look reptilian, since a Reptilian cruiser uses the same slots as Mammalian etc. So, if you change your cruiser design to use a completely different turret layout, their ships have an equivalent for that - it all goes pretty smoothly. Event/special ships are typically custom builds, with unique fixed weapon layouts, and without different ship sections that can accomodate firing points for more or less turrets/weapons etc.

 

[Me_]

Conventional race ships all use equal templates. If you get some other-race ships from integration, you can still upgrade them to your design, even though they still look reptilian, since a Reptilian cruiser uses the same slots as Mammalian etc. So, if you change your cruiser design to use a completely different turret layout, their ships have an equivalent for that - it all goes pretty smoothly. Event/special ships are typically custom builds, with unique fixed weapon layouts, and without different ship sections that can accomodate firing points for more or less turrets/weapons etc.

Some of them are, in fact, unique ship classes, like frigates, so they have nothing to upgrade to anyway. I guess they decaded to give them all uniform treatment.

 

[Zayne Carrick]

Actually, if you'll get jump drive and will upgrade every ship in your fleet but dreadnought to JD, dreadnought will be able to travel with rest of his fleet till you detach him for first time. Same stuff with other event ships, just don't detach them.

 

[TehJumpingJawa]

On a related note.....

Cannot reverse engineer event ships? ...really, Paradox?

I feel like I'm drowning baby kittens every time I intentionally get an event ship blown up so I can study the wreckage.

 

[balmung60]

Before 1.5, the event science ship and salvaged cruiser could be upgraded. The frigates, raiders, nomad cruiser, cultist battleship, and ancient dreadnought were never upgradeable.

It's a real shame, since I have a science ship I can never upgrade to the curator research module and cruisers so bad that I was dismantling them for being a waste of fleet cap and upkeep cost before I even unlocked destroyers. If I can't upgrade the cruiser, it should at least be something of a "disk one nuke", but instead, it's a badly designed cruiser with weapons that make little sense for fighting early-game corvette swarms (come on, at least fill the hangar with a bomber wing or something).

Also, assuming that they ever fixed the nomad cruiser purchase event chain (well, even if they didn't, but if it still always gives no cruisers to anyone, it's not quite as relevant), the nomad cruiser isn't even a legal design - it has an arc emitter mounted as a large weapon. The rest of its not-quite-standard nature can be explained by it actually being a special event ship class that is technically just very similar to a normal cruiser.