Cannot Invite to Faction: -500 Has Strategic Reasons to Reject

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Quick question -- I'm doing a single player Japan game where I lead my faction. The allies have spread the war to South America and have called in minors like Chile.

When I loaded my game initially I got a pop up that a number of fascist countries (e.g. Venezuela) would like to join. However, it soon went away because I have a "-500 Japan has strategic reasons to reject" modifier on invite to faction.

Why am I getting this? I am Japan and the faction leader.
 

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Why am I getting this? I am Japan and the faction leader.
That it says "Japan" instead of "Venezuela" seems to be a tooltip bug as far as I can tell. I made a bug report; it would be great if you could add a screenshot, reproduction steps and/or a save file because I could not reproduce the issue in-game myself.
Apart from that, the line just means the AI decided it really does not want this action according to its own analysis. It only updates its strategies every week or so. Something must have happened to change its mind but it is usually hard to pinpoint. Are you perhaps using mods affecting the AI?

If you're interested, a while ago I did a bit of documentation about how the AI forms strategies but it is not detailed enough to explain the -500 in this instance.
 
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It's an AI script.

It's there to prevent european fascist minors from joining Japan faction instead of Axis.

It is only removed when Germany is not fascist.
 
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However, it soon went away because I have a "-500 Japan has strategic reasons to reject" modifier on invite to faction.

Why am I getting this? I am Japan and the faction leader.

I noticed this, it's a bug. I was playing Mexico and trying to invite Argentina into my Bolivarian Alliance and it said something similar about how Mexico didn't want to join :D
 
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It's an AI script.

It's there to prevent european fascist minors from joining Japan faction instead of Axis.

It is only removed when Germany is not fascist.
That exists but it only applies for European minors and I don't see how it could affect South American countries too.
 
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Funny, in my game as Mexico, Venezuela joined the Axis when I declared war on Italy and Japan declared war on me

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You're right, I'm using Expert AI.
Well there's your "why".

AI mods often fiddle with such things as AI desires and acceptance. Sadly it's not a very flexible system and AI still often finds a way to bypass it, or the opposite - it causes weird behavior, because it was intended for a different situation than the one you're in.
 
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