The image says it all. I have never experienced this one, so what must I do to make them accept annexation? Relations are 198, and I can choose the option to integrate, but then I get this message:
Cannot integrate PU
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I know right? And they are too large to inherit, which means im stuck with these idiots waisting my warscore forever 
I know right? And they are too large to inherit, which means im stuck with these idiots waisting my warscore forever
Insult them a lot and maybe they'll break away. Aren't they supposed to do that in the latest version?
Happened to me a couple of times. The most usual is when you have a PU with a HRE member, and the emperor Revokes the Privilegia. Happens too just before a subject nation, either vassal or the junior partner in a PU, declares independence.
But if playing as a vassal or PU junior (e.g. norway) you can't choose this option right?
I think this was fixed in 1.5. It was only possible in 1.4.1 I believe.Never played a subject nation
Are they a different religion? I believe if your junior partner is a heretic or heathen then the AI will deny the Integrate option 100% of the time.
They are heathen (Sunni, I am orthodox). I have integrated heretics before, heathens I never integrated though. If this is true I'll have to wait until they get taken over by religious rebels, which will most likely never happen
Yeah that's your problem. A nation with a different religion I don't believe can ever be integrated, but can be inherited(it kind of makes sense). The only thing you can do is wait it out and/or support rebels in the country and hope that they take over the country.
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Yeah you can inherit but cannot integrate, I should have been clearer. From the wiki:
"Rebels that change government type or state religion and enforce their demands in the provinces of the junior partner to be integrated may instantly cancel the annexation process and will break the Personal Union. " So it might not be good if rebels break your partner.
Source: http://www.eu4wiki.com/Inheritance#Ending
I had the same thing happen in my latest Ottomans game, got a PU with Algiers before I flipped to Orthodox and took over the HRE, but I couldn't integrate them because they stayed Sunni (obviously). I eventually managed to inherit them (in between losing the union twice due to terrible relations after annexing vassals, but they also Westernised and ate Morocco in the process which saved me pushing through all those North African coring costs) which should happen fairly reliably if you are Ottomans - you are presumably constantly blobbing so you should definitely end up bigger than them eventually. The issue for you is that Grenada has eaten big chunks of base tax in central Spain - you should still be able to inherit them but you will need to be pretty big.
Can I get some clarification here? Because this sounds really important. In the case that they are heretics are there any negative effects?
Yeah I have a 10% chance of inheriting grenada (with rep advisor and diplomatic ideas). I am also the HRE emperor with 2 reforms. A bigger problem is though, that I also have a PU over a MASSIVE timurids who are of course sunni as well: -22% inheriting chance. (royal marriage stays after conversion)
Heretics are the same religion as you, but follow a different sect, branch, etc of that religion. i.e. If you are a Catholic then you consider Protestants, Orthodox, etc to be "heretics". In game this results in a -10 or -20 relations penalty.
Heathens are of a completely different religion, i.e. Shiite or Sunni Muslims are considered by every other religion to be "Heathens", Protestants consider Shinto to be Heathens, etc. This results in a -20 or -40 relations penalty (I believe, sorry if it's off).
Basically you can inherit AND integrate Heretics, but you can only inherit a nation that are considered Heathens, you can't integrate them manually, or it will result in the image that the OP got.
tl;dr Heretics (same religion different sect) can be integrated and inherited, Heathens (different religion altogether) can only be inherited, but can't be integrated manually.
Cheers
There are 2 major malus for integration, overseas -0.5 and from size may vary. Try getting statesman and diplo or expansion idea. Reputation may solve your problem.
Ah, thanks for that. And for the OP. I'm sure this will help me avoid some future headache. It's good to know it's not a problem for heretics.