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Is this thing normal? Kazakh does not want its cores?

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Yes, happens all the time. Even worse when they lose favours because you won’t give them land but they have cores or vital interest land occupied by them.
 

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Yes I know that allies often refuse provinces and that their trust decreases, but here? I declare a reconquest war in the name of my vassal, and they don't want their own cores? That rather strange... Well, at least I can return the provinces in the peace deal, but the cost is higher.
 

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Yes I know that allies often refuse provinces and that their trust decreases, but here? I declare a reconquest war in the name of my vassal, and they don't want their own cores? That rather strange... Well, at least I can return the provinces in the peace deal, but the cost is higher.

...I didn't know Kazakh was your vassal. I don't think this is WAD then.
 

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Yes I know that allies often refuse provinces and that their trust decreases, but here? I declare a reconquest war in the name of my vassal, and they don't want their own cores? That rather strange... Well, at least I can return the provinces in the peace deal, but the cost is higher.
Ever since patch 1.20, vassals have been able to refuse land that is occupied in their name. I have no idea why this became a thing, but it's incredibly dumb and Paradox said they were going to fix it ages ago.
 

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Ever since patch 1.20, vassals have been able to refuse land that is occupied in their name. I have no idea why this became a thing, but it's incredibly dumb and Paradox said they were going to fix it ages ago.
too busy fixing latest exploits l o l
 

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I just had this happen with my vassal Chagatai just yesterday lol. I declared a reconquest war against Buryat and was baffled when Chagatai didn't want their cores back. And then I found out there's also the bug of not being able to return occupation to myself. It was a problem because I "can't return Buryat's last province". Eventually though I can return Buryat's last province if I leave ceding the last province as the last click before the deal and Buryat was no more.
 

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Ever since patch 1.20, vassals have been able to refuse land that is occupied in their name. I have no idea why this became a thing, but it's incredibly dumb and Paradox said they were going to fix it ages ago.

I agree that this is a thing, but this is "more than a thing" if they refuse their cores!
[This is my first 1.21 game (last one was still 1.19)]