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mgr251

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TheOx you're correct they were never landed and always people of famous repute not noblemen though by the player's choice you could give them titles and positions on your council.
 

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The historical characters that were generated weren't political figures/dynastic founders IIRC, but instead were famous philosophers/merchants/ministers/etc. For example, if you controlled the proper provinces in say, England or Africa, you'd get William of Ockham or Ibn Khaldun showing up at your court, respectively. I can still see why you'd be against such a degree of determinism, but the generated characters were almost never landed by the AI (from what I recall, at least), they were just there to add some flavor to your court.

Oh i see. Well as you point out yourself there is quite a degree of historical determinism in such events too.
 

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I would actually be quite partial to having the Ottomans appear in game like Seljuq - this would of course be dependent upon the Rum event in PB having occurred. The numbers of the invasion should be so that the Byzzies or Rum at their full strength could beat him off, but a weakened Rum or Byzantine Empire could not fend him off.
 

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+1 to that.
Adding the french peerage system would also be great :12 peers:
6 were ecclesiastical: 1 Archbishop-Duke (Reims), 2 Bishops-Dukes (Laon and Langres) and three Bishops-Counts (Beauvais, Châlons, Noyon)
6 were temporal: 3 Dukes (Burgundy, Normandy, Aquitaine (the king of England)) and three counts (Flanders, Champagne, Toulouse).
 

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Like i said earlier the teams for the various modules already has a lot of plans and a lot of things on their to-do list. So you shouldn't get your hopes up for any TPATT-like additions in the immediate future. It'll take some time if it even happens.
 

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Curious, what are the chances of getting a courtier with high stats? I'll only ever seen mediocre people show up, nothing like seeing Seljuk or Timur showing up.

It'd be interesting to have a somewhat genericized great person feature, with famous historical figures as models, and a specific set of circumstances required to spawn them.
 

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as King underlined, i won't make major changes to how my mod works, because it is major changes you request here, you have to be aware about this.
CoA -and any mod around- have some technical limitations and obviously need design choices. i compose with technical limitations and decide myself what choices i made from this startpoint. repeating your request here and there and everywhere surely won't change it in any way.

But you have to concede that Solo's way in Patrum Scuta was the best one to make what no one has done before: historical dynasties would appear organically with their own real coats of arms. It was one of the things that hurt the most from TPatT's demise. He made a CoA matrix with most possible factors and then he made the combinations in the dynasty files with the custom CoA codes. Extremely time consuming, but also the best way to go.
 

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Why even bother replying with that comment? What is the point?

What do you want me to say to a reply like yours? I get that you really liked TPATT, but TPATT and the HIP modules have/had different ideas about how to best give players a great mod experience.

And that's totally okay, because we can't please everyone and we're not going to try and please everyone either.
 

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What do you want me to say to a reply like yours? I get that you really liked TPATT, but TPATT and the HIP modules have/had different ideas about how to best give players a great mod experience.

And that's totally okay, because we can't please everyone and we're not going to try and please everyone either.

I made a statement, I wasn't replying to anyone. I never asked for you to say anything either, so what do you mean what do I want you to say?
 

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I made a statement, I wasn't replying to anyone. I never asked for you to say anything either, so what do you mean what do I want you to say?

That doesn't make my reply anymore odd. My reply is just a statement too. You said that unless TPATT gets integrated in VIET or SWMH they would never be as good as TPATT. I don't agree with that, so my comment was just a reflection of that opinion in a diplomatic fashion.

I'm allowed to show my opinion too.
 

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again none of the HIP project member has plan to integrate -or that odd word "cannibalize"- any part of TPATT, whichever good were some parts of it.