Canceling war tribute

[SKOTy]

In my recent with the Ottomans I was beaten heavily by the Golden Horde and I've agreed to pay them tribute. After some years I feel they've weakened and I can attack them. Is there any way to stop tributes to them or I just have to attack them for 4 stab hit (-2 for having no casus belli and -2 for great relations).

Thanks for any answer

 

[zezeb]

Only way. Send some insults to them and maybe become defender of faith if their not muslims. I cannot remember if they are. Well they probably are so you just take the -2 stability hit if you feel it's worth it.

 

[SKOTy]

I can't insult them as my only diplomatic options are send them gift or DoW them.

 

[unmerged(375644)]

Yes. unfortunately it is clearly an oversight by Paradox that there isn't a casus belli for ending tribute. Or any casus belli against hordes for non-hordes for that matter.

 

[Edlar89]

Can you declare war on any of their allies? -2 stab hit is better than -4.

 

[unmerged(375644)]

Can you declare war on any of their allies? -2 stab hit is better than -4.

He could spy on them and get caught, that would lower their opinion of him

 

[DDRJake]

Spies and high infamy are the only real ways you have a chance to lower relations with a horde.

If you want to end your tribute to them you could lose your land connection with them, that would end the payments.

If you want to declare war on a horde you will never have the casus belli for it. If they have any, wage war on one of their vassals instead.