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I'm wondering if the ai will ever change their home trade node if you manage to privateer so extensively that you effectively kick them out of their own node? I'm playing Morocco right now, and privateering the sevilla node into the ground. my privateers have nearly 40% of the trade power in the node, and have become the primary power there. Is there a theoretical breakpoint where the AI will adjust its network to recoup some of those losses?
 
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With my most recent Italy game I use my massive fleet to steal like 75% of the Constantinople trade node to ensure Ottomans would be significantly poorer, I was using protect trade rather than privateering though so they couldn't hunt pirates. I did notice that they started to collect in their down stream nodes in Aleppo and Alexandria so they did react. Perhaps the Iberians are collecting down steam in the Caribbean?
 

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Speaking of Italy, I like to use a small-medium privateer fleet to take money from whichever End Node I'm not collecting in. I could use a merchant to do this of course and eat the trade penalties, but in my experience that merchant is better used to steer trade to my main node, and if you already control a lot of the privateered node you actually get a decent amount.
 
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I'm wondering if the ai will ever change their home trade node if you manage to privateer so extensively that you effectively kick them out of their own node? I'm playing Morocco right now, and privateering the sevilla node into the ground. my privateers have nearly 40% of the trade power in the node, and have become the primary power there. Is there a theoretical breakpoint where the AI will adjust its network to recoup some of those losses?
AI still hasn't learned how to use the Hunt Pirates mission?
 
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AI still hasn't learned how to use the Hunt Pirates mission?
I mean a little bit? Spain and Portugal put together have never devoted more than a couple hundred guns at once to it, (10-20 ships, maybe less) and that was before I started permafighting them (aka I nuke their navy every ten years, and steal a bunch of colonial provinces)
 
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I mean a little bit? Spain and Portugal put together have never devoted more than a couple hundred guns at once to it, (10-20 ships, maybe less) and that was before I started permafighting them (aka I nuke their navy every ten years, and steal a bunch of colonial provinces)
The fact that you are mocking the poor unfortunate AI does not honor you. ;) Although I understand very well, I myself am a sinner.

But I'm talking about something else. Since I'm usually on the other side, I use Pirate Hunt a lot. Firstly, by sending even a small number of ships, I get -99 to the effectiveness of the pirates of the node, and this directly affects the effectiveness of the raids and they stop. The AI never takes advantage of this opportunity.

When real pirates appear in the node, you have to increase the number of ships, and after a month the pirates leave. Moreover, the number of ships is generally small, you need 1.5 times more galleys.

Now let's look at another example. I am sending 10 merchant ships to Constantinople to piracy. With a very large fleet, the Ottomans never try to use the Pirate Hunt mission. I understand the situation when it is physically impossible to carry it out, because there is nothing, but he does not do this even when it costs him nothing.

But once upon a time, I saw how AI tried to fight pirates in the Malacca region. But that was a very long time ago.
 

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I wasn't mocking anything, that entire comment was a factual statement. 10-20 ships is wildly insufficient for anti-piracy when my pirate fleet has 150+ ships. It was never more than -10% efficiency. And I'm also deadly serious about the fact that I've been repeatedly decimating their fleets in wars, which means they have very few available for trade anyway.
 
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I wasn't mocking anything, that entire comment was a factual statement. 10-20 ships is wildly insufficient for anti-piracy when my pirate fleet has 150+ ships. It was never more than -10% efficiency. And I'm also deadly serious about the fact that I've been repeatedly decimating their fleets in wars, which means they have very few available for trade anyway.
Well, that's the wrong word again. More correct probably 'bullying'. I'm sorry.

No matter how many ships you sent and how many he has, he never uses this mission.