Can you show Asia in the next DDs?

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Thure

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It would be nice if we got southern India, assuming it's not still WIP. I don't think we have seen it yet.

Also, that map Thure posted is quite definitely still WIP. It doesn't yet have confederations like Dahae in the western parts.
 
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I think that Asia will not be very enjoyable experiance - you'll either play as a blob from the start (fun like playing Ming in EU4 = no fun) or some little tag = also no fun starting nex to blob.
 

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I think that Asia will not be very enjoyable experiance - you'll either play as a blob from the start (fun like playing Ming in EU4 = no fun) or some little tag = also no fun starting nex to blob.
Well in EU4 Ming and Ottomans are that blob. It's still fun playing as Karaman, Dai Viet etc even before Mandate of Heaven and the tributary stuff.
 

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Well in EU4 Ming and Ottomans are that blob. It's still fun playing as Karaman, Dai Viet etc even before Mandate of Heaven and the tributary stuff.
As Karaman and Dai Viet you have plenty of room to expand, as this minors in I:R - I don't think so ;) No escape to Ireland or Australia (I hope at least).

This is why we need China in IR
China deserves it's own title, but it has no reason to be included in I:R. It would be the worst that could happen. Rajas of India was the biggest mistake ever made by PDX (not counting marketing flaws), so I hope devs will not repeat it.
 

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In YOUR opinion.

One of the lowest score on the Steam Store speaks for itself. Don't you remember as well riot after release of RoI about bad performance, worse AI, etc? C'man, you can like what you want but this are the facts - RoI was not successfull expansion. Nor was it wise to include India in CK2 before ensuring that it won't affect normal gameplay performance-wise.

But his opinion is the only one that matters. I mean we ARE on the internet.
Right....
 

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One of the lowest score on the Steam Store speaks for itself. Don't you remember as well riot after release of RoI about bad performance, worse AI, etc? C'man, you can like what you want but this are the facts - RoI was not successfull expansion. Nor was it wise to include India in CK2 before ensuring that it won't affect normal gameplay performance-wise.


Right....

Yes. AFTER release. This stuff was fixed a long time ago.
 

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So exited about the steppes, I really hope nomads have special mechanics, I want to be able to take control of Wusun rename the Saka Raukae (Royal Sacians) and form a new powerfull nomadic empire,

This is why map expansion are awsome, in Ck2 I always love map expansion (I have a good computer so that helps to be honest), not necessarly because it is brings exiting mechanics (although that helps if you wanna play as the new factions) but also so that the map feels more dynamics, and open,

It was no fun playing in iran in the old god mechanics as muslims because the only threats where west-ward and where'nt real threats, howevers playing in iran with the nomade threats, the big tibetan empire and constanly rising and falling Indian empire was a lot of fun that has to be taken into account when you think about map expansion.

If you go back to the Saka Raukae (please dev make it a formable tag, I will go and do some reseach and edit it in this message), having the possibility to expand towards the east would be brilliant interacting on different grounds with empire bordering the eastern steppes should be awsome I don't wan't to wait 3-4 year for a cossack DLC or a horse lord dlc (however brilliant they where and they where brilliant) before enjoying nomad gameplay,

I will now end the post before I digress even more