Can you break Ming via colonizing Taiwan?

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Ming no longer loses mandate from bordering non-Tributaries. Easiest way to break them is declaring war with massive naval supremacy and just blockading their entire coast line for massive devastation. That by itself brings unrest and also lowers mandate. Keep that up for a while and they should start breaking at some point.
 
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Ming no longer loses mandate from bordering non-Tributaries. Easiest way to break them is declaring war with massive naval supremacy and just blockading their entire coast line for massive devastation. That by itself brings unrest and also lowers mandate. Keep that up for a while and they should start breaking at some point.
Ah yes, the Opium War strategy
 
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Ming no longer loses mandate from bordering non-Tributaries. Easiest way to break them is declaring war with massive naval supremacy and just blockading their entire coast line for massive devastation. That by itself brings unrest and also lowers mandate. Keep that up for a while and they should start breaking at some point.
Is it massive? Blockade is only +0.1 devastation per month. You would have to blockade them for decades to get that up to levels where it would matter, I would think.
 

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Is it massive? Blockade is only +0.1 devastation per month. You would have to blockade them for decades to get that up to levels where it would matter, I would think.

It will soon start aquiring war exaustion.
If you time it right, they have unrest from passing a reform.
The rebels will start to stack devastation in random places.

And yes, it takes 10 years to work, then it snowball by itself.
 

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It will soon start aquiring war exaustion.
If you time it right, they have unrest from passing a reform.
The rebels will start to stack devastation in random places.

And yes, it takes 10 years to work, then it snowball by itself.
Is there a message setting where you get notified as soon as Ming passes a reform?
 

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To break ming i colonise taiwan put ~150k troop on it (usually it's late in the game when i decide to take care of them), and use a naval supremacy + invasion on key province (there is nankin and few other).
Once the mandate is too low their troop have massive fire and shock disadventages.
Then in the peace deal take the key province and watch them burn with their -0.15 monthly mandate.

If you don't have the troop the only solution is what other said : naval supremacy then create devastation and war exhaution with blockade.
 

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Is it massive? Blockade is only +0.1 devastation per month. You would have to blockade them for decades to get that up to levels where it would matter, I would think.
Just 0.1 devastation removes prosperity which is a major source of mandate growth. If you do it after they take a reform it can be very effective at keeping them down.

Personally, I get a small army and go to every province I can not in a zone of control and scorch earth, as well as at least one province in any state I can reach to make sure they can’t get prosperity.

Combine that with a continuous series of wars by declaring on tributaries and you can break them fairly quickly.