Can we please get the command console unlocked?

[twenty]

I don't see what the big issue would be with just unlocking it. It doesn't ruin anybody's experience, takes probably a moment by PDX to implement (since it's already in), you've still got free will to make use of it or not, console players now get to enjoy like anybody else and everybody's happy.

Resistance to the idea seems downright bizarre.

this has all been covered in this thread, it is not as simple as flicking a switch and the content is there for everyone on console.

not all functions would be allowed, work would have to be done modifying the code to allow certain thing while restricting others. this modifications wouldnt be compatible with future ports of content updates, meaning even more work with each and every update. then they have to submit these changes to the consoles for approval , pay the fee, etc, etc..

what resistance are you talking about? I just looked through the thread again and dont see anyone vehemently calling for the CC not to be released,. any resistance is to the tactics used and less than honest statements being sold as facts.

I cant begin to understand it either, it's so bizarre to me the lengths people will go to oppose something that doesn't affect them.

what lengths are people going to?

people have a legitimate concern that taking people and resources away to work on this for a few people will have a negative effect on the content they are working on for all console players. again, I dont see anyone directly against them doing this down the road, just not focusing on it one week after launch.

if they decide this is a direction they want to go, wouldn't it make more sense for them to work on it as part of the mods coming down the road, seeing as it modifies the game? this way it works outside the core game and all its future ports.

and before you ask, no, it doesnt look like they're going to give you any information about when or if they're going to do it, just like they cant tell us when utopia is releasing or when/what content will follow.

 

[skullblits]

They don't need to pay fees for testing on console anymore.

 

[FuzziSlippers]

this has all been covered in this thread, it is not as simple as flicking a switch and the content is there for everyone on console.

not all functions would be allowed, work would have to be done modifying the code to allow certain thing while restricting others. this modifications wouldnt be compatible with future ports of content updates, meaning even more work with each and every update. then they have to submit these changes to the consoles for approval , pay the fee, etc, etc..

what resistance are you talking about? I just looked through the thread again and dont see anyone vehemently calling for the CC not to be released,. any resistance is to the tactics used and less than honest statements being sold as facts.



what lengths are people going to?

people have a legitimate concern that taking people and resources away to work on this for a few people will have a negative effect on the content they are working on for all console players. again, I dont see anyone directly against them doing this down the road, just not focusing on it one week after launch.

if they decide this is a direction they want to go, wouldn't it make more sense for them to work on it as part of the mods coming down the road, seeing as it modifies the game? this way it works outside the core game and all its future ports.

and before you ask, no, it doesnt look like they're going to give you any information about when or if they're going to do it, just like they cant tell us when utopia is releasing or when/what content will follow.

First off, released as a mod? You mean something that may never actually come to the console edition, especially for PS4. Sure great idea, let one player base over another benefit from a feature another player base won't. Even though, you know, it already exists in the game on both consoles, unlocking it would be infinitely easier than adding it as a mod. Mostly because they won't need approval from companies like Sony since it was already approved when the came launched since it already exists in the code. Also, it doesn't modify the game. It isn't considered a modification when it's a feature that exists in the vanilla coding.

Wanna talk about less than honest statements being put off as facts when you literally just did exactly that. They can easily tell us whether or not they will unlock it, for the 6th time the only thing the devs want are beneficial reasons to unlocking it, and they will, because it is literally that easy, it's literally a press of probably two clicks and takes MINIUM resources at best, probably just pay roll based resources so they can pay the guy who unlocks it. This is something the devs CONFIRMED themselves. I love how you try saying people like myself have been presenting opinions as fact, when I have been able to back up every single claim and reasoning entirely.

 

[twenty]

They don't need to pay fees for testing on console anymore.

I was under the impression (from other devs) that there was still a cost involved with each patch / update submitted. there not as huge as they used to be but still a cost, that may have changed.....

 

[Olanov]

A dev reply on all this sure would be satisfactory, since we're mostly dealing with hypothethicals here.

 

[twenty]

A dev reply on all this sure would be satisfactory, since we're mostly dealing with hypothethicals here.

I'd say no news is good news..... they haven't flat out said they wont do it. they have a road map infront of them and they're sticking to it.

my guess would be that a month or few after utopia is released threy will give us a second road map of planned DLC and possibly an update on how the mod platform is working out, possibly. this may be where we see info about the CC.

probably no one at paradox even knows for sure where its heading right now and they definitely dont want to say something on the record that may or may not hapoen. they wont even ballpark the release of utopia and that's a guaranteed update coming, just soon.... and I get that. if they give a date and something goes wrong they end up with people screaming for blood.

edit: just noticed they have released the date for utopia, August 13th.

 

[FuzziSlippers]

A dev reply on all this sure would be satisfactory, since we're mostly dealing with hypothethicals here.

Agreed, two threads, one of them seven pages long and still no response? Couldn't be more tittilating. There was an old thread, pretty sure made before the game even released or made immediately after release (the same thread where the devs confirmed its existence, and confirmed they are open to unlocking it) and the dev's responded to that one within' a week of its existence.

I would be happy with just an official response even if that means it isn't unlocked right away, because unlike contrary claims I do understand they have more important things to tackle before unlocking a feature that is insignificant compared to day development of DLC. But releasing it as a mod, or along with mods is frankly a stupid thing to suggest. Because that means either a. it may never happen, because mods coming to stellaris console isn't confirmed or b. only one player base will have access over the other because one player base's company (Sony) doesn't allow mods. PLUS it's already in the game, and would substantially easier to just unlock over completely rewriting it as a mod, getting approval to add it and add it along with all the other mods that would have to be rewritten, and you people want to talk about us requesting such a feature now being bad because the devs have more work to do first, but adding it with mods or worse as a mod is just going to cost them more resources and more work. Just simply unlocking it would only cost them a little bit of time, and only a little bit of money (probably just to pay whoever is in charge of unlocking such a thing)

What else is new though? Of course someone like twenty would make such a silly suggestion. He has contributed nothing to the discussion besides hypocritical claims, and tedious suggestions which makes unlocking a simple feature even more difficult. Talks down about people passing off "less than honest claims as facts" and then just goes and does exactly that himself lol

 

[tului]

Not sure how many buttons on controllers are available that aren't already bound but it could be added as a toggle option with difficulty and Ironman etc and then placed at the bottom of the left D pad menu if it's enabled.

 

[FuzziSlippers]

Not sure how many buttons on controllers are available that aren't already bound but it could be added as a toggle option with difficulty and Ironman etc and then placed at the bottom of the left D pad menu if it's enabled.

It would probably be easier, and less taxing / time consuming to just make it an option in the start menu. It would be a little inconvient for players to access, but a small price to pay for quick accessibility. Not only would it take more coding to code it to a button sequence, but I am sure every button is already used. It could be a combination of some "left down up right" on the d-pad while paused for example, but still I think it would be easier to just add it in the start menu. That I am not certain about, unlike everything else however, but this sounds pretty solid

 

[tului]

It would probably be easier, and less taxing / time consuming to just make it an option in the start menu. It would be a little inconvient for players to access, but a small price to pay for quick accessibility. Not only would it take more coding to code it to a button sequence, but I am sure every button is already used. It could be a combination of some "left down up right" on the d-pad while paused for example, but still I think it would be easier to just add it in the start menu. That I am not certain about, unlike everything else however, but this sounds pretty solid

That's what I meant by make it a toggle where you set Galaxy size and whatnot then just add an icon at the bottom of the left D pad menu to access kt

 

[Tulzargra]

So, no news about a cheat menu or any official response?

 

[twenty]

So, no news about a cheat menu or any official response?

welcome to the forum.

the official response is that they dont have an official response to continued support after what has already been scheduled for release. I would suspect that sometime after the release of Utopia in August they will make an official announcement about where the game is heading.

 

[Tulzargra]

welcome to the forum.

the official response is that they dont have an official response to continued support after what has already been scheduled for release. I would suspect that sometime after the release of Utopia in August they will make an official announcement about where the game is heading.

Ok thanks, really enjoying this game so far!

 

[ioticus]

I'm not holding my breath for continued support, it's already gone on sale and been free to play recently, so I don't think it sold well.

 

[Tulzargra]

I'm not holding my breath for continued support, it's already gone on sale and been free to play recently, so I don't think it sold well.

Free to play? Where? On wich console? Never heard of that.

 

[ioticus]

Free to play? Where? On wich console? Never heard of that.

It was free to play on Xbox from June 6-9.

 

[twenty]

It was free to play on Xbox from June 6-9.

it was free to play on PC too, they were celebrating three years since release of the game and yes, it's a marketing tactic.

 

[Generic Admiral]

You do know that in any game the devs always advise not to use them. Because they can cause issues such as messing up save games ect.

Also I'm pritty sure that sony/Microsoft have a requirement that they are keepet locked.

You guys mean console commands don't ya

Sony and Microsoft do not have restrictions on console commands, because they are in the console edition of Ark survival evolved. I would understand a big warning in red text wen you open up the console, but locking it altogether, I don’t understand.

 

[Pazzarus]

I am astounded the console edition developers have made zero effort in addressing the unlocking of the command console.

With a major update on the way, one that brings the game version up to 2.2/2.3 there are going to be a lot of game breaking issues, that without a command console, ESPECIALLY mods (but that is a topic for another day) is going to make the game completely unbearable to play. While commonly used by lazy people to cheat in their games, there are a lot of different things that mods or in this case a command console that would allow quick fixes for bugs, and improves for the AI, which if you have not been to the PC forums is it a completely sorry state at the moment. One could use the command console, to enter observe mode and then take control of an AI empire to make the improvements to it’s economy and planets that they are simply too incompetent to do themselves, when they inevitable stagnate. Because protip, no matter the difficulty, aggression, or how advanced their start they will always stagnate and you will always overcome them because they eventually completely stop upgrading, or building, and if they do, it is usually the wrong building for the wrong resource, and provides them no benefit.

The fact that this isn’t a feature already provided to the player, let alone addressed is ridiculous. The fact a company like EA allows access to the command console on their ported PC to console games (I.e SIMS 4), a company known for doing nothing but making broken games, but Paradox does not for one of their most popular, respected and renowned games? It is not just ridiculous, or astounding it is out right flabbergasting.

Although the OP, and others, acted like a mungs about it. People really shouldn’t purchase more content if it is all going to be basically broken and with no access to tools to make it at least some what bearable. At least when this thread was made, these problems did not exist to the magnitude they are about to exist in, where NOW something like this would be absolutely nessecary for a player to access. As others have pointed out in this thread, a developer has confirmed it’s existence, which means it is in the software already, which means it was already approved by Sony/Microsoft and thus does not violate anything otherwise it would have been completely blocked out and removed from the game’s programming. So there is no reason, especially in a time when something like this would actually be a valuable resource to the player, should remained locked.

I know this is an old thread, but due to the circumstances that the console edition has not been abandoned, and is about to face a major update a long with a load of issues that is going to frustrate a lot of people, that won’t be fixed by Paradox/ Tauntalus until they fix those same issues on the PC version first. That this thread NEEDS to be revisited.

But please let’s keep it civil, nothing toxic because I believe as a Paradox customer that this is important to everyone that plays the console edition, and can’t get or doesn’t have PC powerful enough to play Stellaris on the PC