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Hi folks,

I know, some will hate me for that, but what the subject line states is true for me when playing EU.

Just to get one thing straight. This is my first impression of the game.
I bought it yesterday and played the Tutorial (or better started it twice)

So here we go.

1. Getting started
Well, there is no readme-file even
one which says the usual stuff like
*congratulation*, e-mail adress for
support and such stuff. So my first
impression was *hey, I get a game
without any changes since printing the
manual and going gold. This must be a
good one*

2. Manual
I don´t need a coloured manual, but the
pictures are rather useless thumbnails.
There is no index at the end ! I don´t
want to read a half a chapter to find
what want to know.
Who ever has seen the EU board game and
played it is a tables-maniac. I have
found one in the manual so far....
of course I found the cvs-files in the db-
archive. But they are neither described
nor self-explanatory.

3. Graphics
Ah, well I play a lot of strategy games,
so I´am used to 5 year old graphics in a
new game. What do I need DirectX 7. for ?

4. Text
I have detected several errors in
translation. Okay, this is the first time
I bought a computer game before it is
released in english. But why do I have
to pay for someone (translator) who is
not even possible to spell the word * to
build* in a game where many,
many things are being built. And it is
really annoying to get a message about
the outcome of your *seabattle*, when
your ARMY-leader has just won a battle.
AARRRGHHH ! And who is responsible for
choosing this typo ?

5. Sound
I have never faced sound problems with
other games. With EU I do. Despite
the default-setting they are much too
loud. If I start the wav out of their
directory, they are o.k., but within the
game they sound scratchy and high pitched
I had to turn sound off.

6. Tutorial
Forget it. No learning curve, no good
explanations. Graphic-flaws all over
(green triangles which pop up to show you
buttons, stay on the screen !). The best
thing about the Tutorial is, that you
can´t save games. Who ever did that, I
would like to ask where the purpose lies
with that ? I am the one who want´s to
decide when to leave a game !

Well some of you will wonder why I didn´t talk about gameplay yet. That´s because I haven´t seen enough to come to a conclusion (and the mail would even be longer than this). So far I like gameplay, even the pseudo real-time-strategy (normally, I don´t like RTS-games), but I can´t say anything about the AI yet.

If you would ask me, if I would buy this game again, the answer is definetly YES, because I want to have in my collection. Would I recommend it a friend ? NO, not until I have seen more of it. And there have to be PATCHES ! Or even better. Let´s try a DEMO.....

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Ferendra
 

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hey quit your damn whining. we have been waiting for this game for almost a year now, so we dont want to hear aaaannnyyyy negative comments about it.

1. what do you need a read-me file for, you have the manual.

2. they could use an index, but it looks like reading might do you some good.

3. you need direct x 7 because it is a high-resolution game, which means it is not like all those other games with crappy graphics.

4. well they are going to make a patch, i cant understand why your mad about a few typos...

5. that is probably your speakers... do they overheat or something?

6. maybe because its a tutorial that you cannot save games. do you know of any game in which you can save while doing a tutorial? i bet the tutorial is fine, you just have to learn to read the messages displayed all over your screen :D
 

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Hi GFM,

I´am not whining (only if I´am alone ;-) ).
I just guess it´s like the albums I like most. Hearing them for the first time, don´t like them, one month later can´t live without them. GDR

I´am bit upset because I spent another 40 Euro on product which needs to fixed.

BTW my speakers are doing fine. I guess as nobody else is claiming to have problems. It´s the game and my system.

Greetings
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i understand why you are upset, as was i when i saw your post. i hope that your game begins to function better (the sound) so you can see the reason why we have been waiting for almost a year for the game's release.

[This message has been edited by Generalfeldmarschall (edited 21-10-2000).]
 
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I'm sory to say so General* but there could actually be some bugs in the game that you've been waiting for so long... Nowadays the games get so complex that new bugs are found every day, so therefore they make patches. In the game of my choice right now Quake III Arena(yeah EU will probably split the first place here), its almost a year old now, id-software is patching the game, sure there are some new features but mostley bug fixes. Halflife just got a new big patch I could go on for a long time with patched games... But just to make my point clear, nothing is perfect not even EU (I hope it's close though).

The problem that Ferendra is suffering from might be system specific so you might never see the problem General*.

Ferendea, my tip for you is to send a bug report to Paradox, I'm sure they can post a suitable mail address here, or just send it to Johan. :) Be sure to tell as much you can about your system and your current software settings otherwise they might not be able to duplicate the problem and fix it...

/Gryphon, would have been great as a beta guy =)
 

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hey Kronn, gosh i never put much thought into my first grand campaign. i guess i will play as prussia first, but i have no further plans as of yet. when are you getting the game? perhaps we can play together....
 

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I may have an idea this week or so if Paradox is able to come up with any agreements on the English version. Glad I waited -- I guess there is a lot of German text.
 

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Originally posted by Ferendra:

5. Sound
I have never faced sound problems with
other games. With EU I do. Despite
the default-setting they are much too
loud. If I start the wav out of their
directory, they are o.k., but within the
game they sound scratchy and high pitched
I had to turn sound off.

Ferendra

I had problems with sound from the very first time I tested EU (back in march 2000, I think).
Sad to hear problems weren't fixed.

Pierre, EU beta test team
 

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Originally posted by Generalfeldmarschall:
dont give up hope anyone, paradox may still fix this flaw.

Relax my cajun friend. I think that any of the bugs reported so far are minor and easily resolved. I know it may detract from the game a little at first, but lets not get too anxious about them. :)

Lets focus on the very positive gaming reports being posted by the 'newbie-zoids' instead!! By all reports, this game is more than living up to expectaitions!! :cool:

Besides, you'll be playing soon! :D



[This message has been edited by KRonn (edited 24-10-2000).]
 

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yes kronn, you are right yet again :D :D please call me if you have the chance i will be home from 3:30pm central time for the rest of the night tomorrow, so give me a call if you have the chance...
 

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Possibly turn down your speakers...lower treble...turn off bass boost (this actually works form me with many games). Also, 5 year old graphics? Heh, well your just peachy. About the sound, possibly there is an option to lower the sound (that will make it less loud). Also, go into combat sounds and lower it, many things to crackle at extremes. Graphical-flaws in the tutorial which are green triangles that pop up to show you stuff? This is a flaw? They probally take the traingle's off to prevent cluttering, etc. Also, why would you want to save a tutorial? For my last thing, why do you need a tutorial? They put manuals in boxes for reasons. Heck, i usually spend an hour or two just studying the manual. As far as cracking goes, do you have many programs running at the time (ICQ, webpages open, etc)? It may be becasue the computer doesn't have enough RAM to do everything effectivly.
 

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Hey APK,
I want to save the Tutorial because after 4 hours of play I have to do other things. They also say that you can use it to trail of and try something else. BTW someone noted how you can change the scenario settings (so it is possible to save). The problem with the green triangles is the last one doesn´t disapear when you are playing on.
Sound problems and crashes have been reported by other (german) players too. Blackstar/Paradox are being informed about that. I also read somewhere that there were even sound problems with the beta !

Greetings
Ferendra