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makaramus

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my child became child of satan he gained massive stat boost and killed relatives
but... thats it? is that just massive stat boost and nothing else?
I was sunni when event triggered but since I was nomad I converted to tengri and now my child is still sunni I joined demon cult and nothing happens? I thought he was supposed to become their leader isnt it?
note: I wasnt member of satanist cult when this happened

edit:triggered "birth right" event by climbing ranks in cult naturally
did I just bug game or someting? I thought I was gonna promote to leader instantly at there and everyone was obediant in there
 
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In my experience the spawn of Satan does get instantly promoted to leader, but maybe that requires the parent to be in the cult.
 

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and now my child is still sunni I joined demon cult and nothing happens? I thought he was supposed to become their leader isnt it?
Diffirunt religions have different devil worshipper cults, they would have become leader of the Sunni one but you can't see that from the pagan version.

Most events only happen when your current character dies and you are actually playing as them. Well unless you own sunset invasion....
 

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I thought the child instantly joins and ranks up leader?
did you force convert hin to tengri bevor you ended up playing as him?
Maybe that conversion kicked him out.
1)you cant force someone to pagan religion(it was start of game)
2)I did convert myself(again its nomadic region and there are tribals attirtion was killing me) and he converted himself seeing me converting

if such thing can break such event I think it must lock himself to that religion :S or get invitation from cult no matter what
In my experience the spawn of Satan does get instantly promoted to leader, but maybe that requires the parent to be in the cult.
yea thats what I readed too for this reason I came here it was weird not game breaking but weird(everyone was still obediant once I reach top rank sadly no ruler ... REALLY? :D)
I think I gonna report it as bug at first people corrected that it works like this but now according to responds I belive that was bug
 

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I think they get promoted immediatly if they come from the "unholy impregnaiton" stuff, otherwise I think they have to climb but I never really play with devil worshippers so I'm not basing this of of my own experience.
 

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"Demon Spawn" eventchain is not for pagans AFAIK. Only the Christian/Jew/Muslim religions can have the event. Therefor if converting the child to pagan before adulthood will change what demon worchipper society he/she will join, probably breaking that part of the chain. He still get the "super-pagan" witches, I hope?
 

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"Demon Spawn" eventchain is not for pagans AFAIK. Only the Christian/Jew/Muslim religions can have the event. Therefor if converting the child to pagan before adulthood will change what demon worchipper society he/she will join, probably breaking that part of the chain. He still get the "super-pagan" witches, I hope?
well I had 1500 troops but thats it :p
I think he should never convert or if he do he should still secretly follow old religion and auto join satanist cult

yea I think this is bug I gonna report it :p

tomorrow... today I need to travel for hours so I am lazy to prepare post now :p
 

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Well.. Considering that event-chain was created when only Christians were playable, I don't think it is a bug :) It was made for Christianity, adopted for the Jews and Muslims whish have a quite simelar Satanism - view and when pagans came along, it was not considered. you break the event-chain by going to a pagan faith. I quite assume this is WAD :)
 

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Well.. Considering that event-chain was created when only Christians were playable, I don't think it is a bug :) It was made for Christianity, adopted for the Jews and Muslims whish have a quite simelar Satanism - view and when pagans came along, it was not considered. you break the event-chain by going to a pagan faith. I quite assume this is WAD :)

There are three things at play. There is the original event chain from Sons of Abraham, there is unholy impregnation that now always results in a demon spawn (which wasn't the case when M&M came out), and there is an event that instantly makes the demon spawn the leader of the devil worshiping society.

The suspicion right now is that the promotion event is only triggered if you get the demon spawn from unholy impregnation.
 

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There are three things at play. There is the original event chain from Sons of Abraham, there is unholy impregnation that now always results in a demon spawn (which wasn't the case when M&M came out), and there is an event that instantly makes the demon spawn the leader of the devil worshiping society.

The suspicion right now is that the promotion event is only triggered if you get the demon spawn from unholy impregnation.
is this confirmed? that every unholy inpregnation results in a demon child?
even If I as husband use it on someone else?
I remember that pre holy fury the child never became a demon, even if I used it on my wife, however it did work if as woman I used it on myself.

then again pre HF the child always was a bastard even if I used it on my wife or my self as married woman. they finaly have Change that.
 

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It was already always a demon spawn with Jade Dragon. And yes, that is confirmed. I checked the game files myself.

I wouldn't recommend impregnating your wife though because the child will be a bastard of her dynasty.