Can someone please explain to me France behavior?

[Suzaku]

France decides to break their alliance with me as Netherlands, so I fear and attack and I begin to prepare for possible defense against them. Next month they a royal marriage and following month they sent alliance request (me personally requesting alliance was x out). And their Opinion modifier is jumping between 55-99-143. The claiming of me not giving them cores/claims keeps appearing and disappearing, but each war I gave them provinces with claims on them.

And they repeat the cycle when their ruler dies...

 

[birincikalite]

It happens when a nation is strong. On my Albania game Austria and Aragon became domineering and broke alliance 3 times the re allied. After a point I hated them so much that we could never ally again even tho they were green hearted.

 

[Sunspawn]

Basically, opinion modifiers are buggy as all hell.

 

[Wizzington]

They usually become domineering because they're trying to vassalise you diplomatically and you're rejecting RMs etc. The bug is that the attitude doesn't stick.

 

[Suzaku]

They usually become domineering because they're trying to vassalise you diplomatically and you're rejecting RMs etc. The bug is that the attitude doesn't stick.

Strange I'm too big to be diplomatically or force vassalize and I've accepted their Alliance and Royal marriage. This happened when I got the Dutch republic event and got the special republic event when previously I was Gere. Do they believe I can be PU or something and want to claim my throne?

After going to war in defense of or for France it seems they stopped breaking their alliance. While numbers do change still, I decided to keep a permanent diplomat in the French court.

 

[Kepheren]

If you can manage it as the Netherlands it is ALWAYS good to keep a diplomat in the French court. In the Austrian court too for that matter unless they already hate you beyond all reason. I've found that you can generally keep an alliance with both as the Netherlands until they start to hate each other so much. Once they go to war with each other you'll then usually need to pick a side and replace the one you lost with allies to offset them.

As an example I managed to keep both in an alliance and maintained something like 150 relations with both by maintaining diplomat. That seemed to moderate the wild fluctuations. Then, once France went totally nuts and declared on Austria I stuck with the HRE and found allies among the Spanish and British as a balance against future French aggression. Not the easiest system to juggle but it works most of the time.

 

[birincikalite]

They usually become domineering because they're trying to vassalise you diplomatically and you're rejecting RMs etc. The bug is that the attitude doesn't stick.

I too believe that attitude should remain constant at least for a time like a year, unless some big change(like France inheriting Spain) happens.

 

[joerd9]

While numbers do change still, I decided to keep a permanent diplomat in the French court.

That can really make a difference!

 

[Suzaku]

If you can manage it as the Netherlands it is ALWAYS good to keep a diplomat in the French court. In the Austrian court too for that matter unless they already hate you beyond all reason. I've found that you can generally keep an alliance with both as the Netherlands until they start to hate each other so much. Once they go to war with each other you'll then usually need to pick a side and replace the one you lost with allies to offset them.

As an example I managed to keep both in an alliance and maintained something like 150 relations with both by maintaining diplomat. That seemed to moderate the wild fluctuations. Then, once France went totally nuts and declared on Austria I stuck with the HRE and found allies among the Spanish and British as a balance against future French aggression. Not the easiest system to juggle but it works most of the time.

Funny thing is that Austria lost the emperor title to Bohemia, and Austria allied with both France and I. We been in so many wars together that I believe we trust each other utterly.

 

[AlbTroll]

Funny thing is that Austria lost the emperor title to Bohemia, and Austria allied with both France and I. We been in so many wars together that I believe we trust each other utterly.

Trust means nothing if the AI "wants your Provinces" / gets a mission for your land.

 

[Don_Munda]

The biggest offender I find is the Get a foothold in India mission. Any game where I've both been allied to a European Great Power and am one of the first into India inevitably ends with centuries long alliances shattered because of "wants your provinces." This is of course particularly worrying as the Netherlands when that ally is France.