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I was wondering if it is possible to enable within the game making certain portraits exclusive to a single custom race. For example, in the games I plan to play with my girlfriend our "canon" races are the Blorg (obviously), Humans, and whatever two races we make (currently Space Cats and Lizard-Snakes).

I was hoping it would be possible to restrict 4 species portraits to only be usable by our 4 canon races so we don't see duplicate Humans, or god forbid duplicate Blorg. I'd love if this were possible as it would be a massive immersion-killer otherwise.
 

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I haven't seen such a feature offered nor have I heard about it. But I imagine that if the demand was great enough, or if they thought it was neat enough, it wouldn't be too entirely difficult to put in.
 
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Yes and no. Wiz said that no portrait will be the same UNTIL all have been used. Remember, there can be uprisings, new empires, savages getting tech and flies off to space, etc. It's a "sorta" answer to your question.
 
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That would inciting upon a gameplay mechanic in that Xenophobes only like their phenotype, which means people with the same portrait as theirs.

That's not what phenotype means; phenotypes are the species categories like Avian, Mammalian, and Reptilian. One of the first species the Blorg met (Zracon, I think?) were xenophobes, but because they and the Blorg were both fungoids, the negative effect was lessened (but not gone entirely).
 
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No you can't, wiz already said there aren't enough portraits in the game yet. You may encounter a same portrait due to all the possible circumstances.

None of the starting races will have same portraits tho so you won't always see the same twice in one game.
 
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I'd appreciate this option, as it'd let mods add in truly 'unique' races, at least as far as galaxy gen (breakaways could still occur of course)
 
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Yea I get that it doesn't look like it is currently in the game, though I'd love it if in the game settings or the race creation settings there was an option for the portrait to be something like "Portrait_can_duplicate=NO". That way I could make it so that the Blorg, Humans, and our two races are the only races using our respective portraits. It would just enhance my enjoyment of the experience is all.
 
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Like @Marrow, I'm hoping for something along the lines of "unique_portrait = yes" in the species portrait files that can be modded. I heavily suspect some form of this unique marker is already implemented in order to keep extra-dimensional and extragalactic species portraits unique for endgame crisis.

My main concern is whether such a uniqueness marker will still allow player to select that species portrait during species creation... and whether this marker would interfere with pre-made species that use unique portraits. I hope it can be just something that would disable species portrait from RNG but still allows manual selection.

Yes and no. Wiz said that no portrait will be the same UNTIL all have been used. Remember, there can be uprisings, new empires, savages getting tech and flies off to space, etc. It's a "sorta" answer to your question.
What Wiz said was only applicable to the generic species portraits. I highly doubt we can make Blorgs or Humans unique in the vanilla game, but we may be able to mark Blorgs and Humans as unique and no longer "generic" in our mods.

Now that you mentioned it, I don't recall seeing a Blorg-like or human species in the stream! Maybe both humans & player species are unique?
Ehh, most likely just a coincidence.

That would inciting upon a gameplay mechanic in that Xenophobes only like their phenotype, which means people with the same portrait as theirs.
We wouldn't know how the exact mechanism work. Sure, you can most likely pull Humans out of Mammalian group or Blorgs out of Fungoid group and then place them in their own special snowflake phenotype, but how exactly would that prevent RNG from choosing those species portraits? Just because you put them in the new Blorgoid and Humanoid groups doesn't necessarily mean that RNG will skip over them... so what's the point?

Now, if there were a line that tells RNG to skip over certain species portrait, then you may not even have to segregate the Humans and Blorgs from their native phenotype.
 
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We wouldn't know how the exact mechanism work. Sure, you can most likely pull Humans out of Mammalian group or Blorgs out of Fungoid group and then place them in their own special snowflake phenotype, but how exactly would that prevent RNG from choosing those species portraits? Just because you put them in the new Blorgoid and Humanoid groups doesn't necessarily mean that RNG will skip over them... so what's the point?

Now, if there were a line that tells RNG to skip over certain species portrait, then you may not even have to segregate the Humans and Blorgs from their native phenotype.
What I gathered from Wiz's comments was empire generation selected a Phenotype first, and after that selected from the remaining species portraits in that phenotype (if there are none remaining it creates duplicates). So if one were to split human (or anything else) into a phenotype by itself it would actually make it more likely to have duplicated, as every time an empire is generated with that phenotype there is only a single option, and phenotype selection appears to be random (so with 7 phenotypes and 30 empires, you are going to average 4 'human' empires per game).

So all in all it depends on how moddable the species/phenotype selection is.
 

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I was wondering if it is possible to enable within the game making certain portraits exclusive to a single custom race. For example, in the games I plan to play with my girlfriend our "canon" races are the Blorg (obviously), Humans, and whatever two races we make (currently Space Cats and Lizard-Snakes).

I was hoping it would be possible to restrict 4 species portraits to only be usable by our 4 canon races so we don't see duplicate Humans, or god forbid duplicate Blorg. I'd love if this were possible as it would be a massive immersion-killer otherwise.
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If anything, it's cool to find a species with your portrait. You can surely do great roleplay out of it, even if there (most likely) won't be anomalies centered around it.
 
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