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To be honest, I don't see why 30 fps on a 2D-ish game is needed at all. I understand that not everyone would stand playing Armored Warfare on 16 fps like I do (512mb mobility radeon, yikes), but a board game?

Any game is basically unplayable below 30 FPS. While you may not be playing a first person shooter, it would still be insanely frustrating to be trying to draw battle plans while keeping tabs on production and research and diplomacy, even with a "board game".
 
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Any game is basically unplayable below 30 FPS. While you may not be playing a first person shooter, it would still be insanely frustrating to be trying to draw battle plans while keeping tabs on production and research and diplomacy, even with a "board game".

It may be because I usually play really slow, pausing constantly to think about decisions, but I don't think the delay would be so noticeable. Guess the demo will tell me.
 
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It may be because I usually play really slow, pausing constantly to think about decisions, but I don't think the delay would be so noticeable. Guess the demo will tell me.


I saw that quote(the one below) which was quoted again in HoI IV forum from the Stellaris forum, it seems like there won't be a demo for Stellaris, I think it'll be the same for HoI IV too.

Hey guys, please be nice to each other.

To have a demo is a perfectly reasonable request and we would love to do it. But the harsh truth is that making a demo, and most of all maintaining it, is a lot of work and cost resources. In the past we failed at this and the demos generated more complaints than value I think, so we decided that the resources are better spent elsewhere. Not all will agree ofc, and I respect that. It's our decision however.

We hope that with Steam's more generous refund policies and the option to do free weekends, there will be satisfactory replacements. I hope you will accept this reasoning, even if you don't agree.

Best Regards
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It may be because I usually play really slow, pausing constantly to think about decisions, but I don't think the delay would be so noticeable. Guess the demo will tell me.

Trying to draw those front lines and battle plans with a laggy game would be absolute hell. Didn't you say earlier that you play another game at only like 16 FPS or something? If so, you'd probably be used to it, though I'm not sure if it would still be enjoyable for you.
 
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Trying to draw those front lines and battle plans with a laggy game would be absolute hell. Didn't you say earlier that you play another game at only like 16 FPS or something? If so, you'd probably be used to it, though I'm not sure if it would still be enjoyable for you.

One can only hope.

I saw that quote(the one below) which was quoted again in HoI IV forum from the Stellaris forum, it seems like there won't be a demo for Stellaris, I think it'll be the same for HoI IV too.

Pity, I would fancy a demo. Do you guys have any experience with steam refunds? Are they trustworthy? Also, never heard of free weekends. Any intel on that?
 

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if you can play EU4 your computer can handle HOI4
 
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One can only hope.



Pity, I would fancy a demo. Do you guys have any experience with steam refunds? Are they trustworthy? Also, never heard of free weekends. Any intel on that?
As long as the game has less than 2 hrs play time and the refund request is within 2 weeks of buying the game it will be refunded. I refunded 2 games and i got full refund do Steam refunds are trustworthy
 
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Don't forget that there has to be a minimum somewhere. Its there so Paradox can say: Sorry, but your PC doesnt meet the requirements, we can't help you with any problems.

But that doesn't mean it won't run. Maybe slow and laggy, but as Hearts of Iron is a game you only play at speed 1 at some point anyway, thats not necessarily too bad. So you or others really have to try themselves first.
 
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Can you get a refund if you pre-order?

Yes you can. Quoting Steam's refund page:

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Refunds on Pre-Purchased Titles
When you pre-purchase a title on Steam (and have paid for the title in advance), you can request a refund at any time prior to release of that title. The standard 14-day/two-hour refund period also applies, starting on the game’s release date."
 
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Don't forget that there has to be a minimum somewhere. Its there so Paradox can say: Sorry, but your PC doesnt meet the requirements, we can't help you with any problems.

But that doesn't mean it won't run. Maybe slow and laggy, but as Hearts of Iron is a game you only play at speed 1 at some point anyway, thats not necessarily too bad. So you or others really have to try themselves first.

Oh, I agree completely, with both paragraphs.

Wouldn't hurt to create a "benchmark thread" after launch though, to characterize the absolute minimum.
 

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. If you can play EUIV you will most likely be able to run HoI IV. You can download the EUIV demo if you dont already got the game and try if it runs well enough.

if you can play EU4 your computer can handle HOI4

I downloaded EUIV Demo, I only got 10-ish FPS in the max settings but on lower resolutions it could get to 30-40-ish (I also tried moving multiple units in different speeds etc. to test it). I think I'll pre-order HoI4, if I get the same result I'll keep playing it. I waited for this game long enough and I really want to play it, so the graphics won't matter too much.

Thanks everyone for their answers.
 
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