Can I still make it

[Rexos]

Just so I know before I try too hard for nothing......
I saw games conquering 3/4 of the world in less than 80 years in the really late game, but let's be real I can't do that, so what are the chances to restore the Romane Empire from this situation, and what I should do to get it done?

https://imgur.com/a/UA7S7

Too bad France is really strong it would take a lot to crash them completly

 

[Dominion]

Easily. If you have lategame experience. Won't even break a sweat.

If you don't have that kind of experience you should use the run to get it.

Dip23 will be the point where you'll explode.

 

[Rexos]

Easily. If you have lategame experience. Won't even break a sweat.

If you don't have that kind of experience you should use the run to get it.

Dip23 will be the point where you'll explode.

exactly.....I don't really have any lategame experience.....and with still half Italy, all France and Iberia to conquer I should have to do that, I would not have asked if I knew how to handle this situation....

 

[Badesumofu]

The biggest problem I see is your diplomatic situation. You aren't big enough to treat AE as a high score list and I'm curious if you have any allies? In that situation I'd want one or two strong allies who would mostly be there to dissuade coalitions and other potential attacks. I can imagine a scenario where you launch the great war against France and Russia and Persia immediately see an opportunity to attack you. Do you have DIplo and Influence ideas? When you can stack up both a few AE reductions and some Improve Relations you'll find you can really burn off AE quite fast. When it ticks down at a rate of 5 per year things start to look very manageable on that front.

In terms of being able to conquer and core fast enough it isn't even an issue. You will see the power of 60 - 70 admin efficiency and be amazed. Even more so if you stack Diplo ideas and being Revolutionary and you're looking at a 70% reduction on war score cost for provinces. You can either use that to take 250 OE worth of crap from someone and either make Client States, (I made a Client Stat the other day and force fed it 200 OE worth of land, just kept a stack nearby to kill their rebels and they were fine) release vassals, or just tank the OE yourself. That can be a bit scary but doable if you core quickly and/or have Humanist ideas and are willing to squash some rebels. You can also just use the discount to be able to take 100 OE worth of land for a lower amount of war score. Getting 40 - 50 WS is a lot quicker and easier than getting 90 - 100, and the truce will be substantially shorter.

The other thing you can do - if that coalition is just a few nations right now - attack it, beat it to a pulp, and take 100 WS worth of stuff that doesn't cause OE just to get a 15 year truce and make yourself safer to attack others. Luckily it looks like your biggest AE problems are to the East while the land you need is to the West. Persia aren't going to care that much if you invade Germany and France, so if you can get them placated or neutered they probably won't be an issue in the future.

 

[Dominion]

It's 1650 and neither Africa nor Iberia are AE regions.

He can just eat those and take 100 years to grab the rest.

 

[Rexos]

Well...I was once allied with Russia but they broke our alliance, so I took their lands in the Crimea region.....I was once allied with Persia but the refused to join in a defensive war, so I took their provinces in the Mashriq area....I was once allied with Austria but....I don't really remeber why, but we are not allied any more...I was...once allied with France, but they refused to join a defensive war......so...I'm waiting.....For now I'm allied with Denmark(but they have sweden that is a curse sometimes when they rebel with the help of England and France), and Bohemia, HRE emperor....I already fought and won 3 big coalitions....poor guys, the thing is that I can't take too much lands in a coalition war, and it takes a lot to win and then 15 years of truce, while I can't declare on anyone else cause they were all in the coalition....I'm trying Humanist ideas and the next group will be diplomatic......I'm worried about the relation between the lands I can take and the time it takes to do that because of the coalition...

It's 1650 and neither Africa nor Iberia are AE regions.

He can just eat those and take 100 years to grab the rest.

Well that would be great Dom....if I could do it

 

[Badesumofu]

If you can do it militarily including stomping any coalitions that pop up, you won't have nay trouble with conquest speed. You will start to realise that gobbling huge amounts of land in the last 100 years is something that anyone can do by virtue of administrative efficiency. You'll just find that you can take far, far more development for the same warscore compared to the early game. This is why it is common advice from players who have late-game experience to just play it out and see what we mean. At the very least you will get some understanding of what late game conquest is like which will stand you in excellent stead for future runs.

 

[Rexos]

Yeah.....besides the fact the my armies get stopped even with more morale, discpline, general and numbers.....I just fought a war against Savoy, France and Hungary, 5 provinces taken from Savoy and half of Europe wants me dead.....I'm walking on glasses

 

[Dominion]

France, Hungary and Savoy are neither in North Africa nor Iberia. Wrong route.

Fully annex Tunis, Tlemcen, Morocco and Portugal (getting a few colonies in the process), then start eating France's Iberian holdings.

No one in Europe will bet an eye.

 

[Rexos]

Ok.......well thank you for THAT, so you are suggesting to eat france before and leave italy for later......semms legit

 

[ElGranCapitan]

Go Revolutionary, full annex France in 2 wars, you got more than enough time

The rest is just cleaning up

Regarding AE, what ideas do you have? Diplo, Influence and Humanist all help
Diplo-Humanist and Influence-Humanist Policies increase AE decay as well

 

[Badesumofu]

The potential to go Revolutionary in 1710 is pretty amazing for late game blobbing and wrapping up a WC or blobby achieve like Mare Nostrum. Although then you are faced with the temptation to take 250 OE worth of land from a single peace treaty and just try to core it all yourself...

 

[Rexos]

I'll get diplo-humanist, no influence, the problem with the revolution is that with the awesome events of Byzantium you get way too much yearly prestige, so it will hardly go below 0, this will slow down the revolution incident a lot and cause some problems but for the rest I can do that

 

[PhoenixG]

I'll get diplo-humanist, no influence, the problem with the revolution is that with the awesome events of Byzantium you get way too much yearly prestige, so it will hardly go below 0, this will slow down the revolution incident a lot and cause some problems but for the rest I can do that

Disinherit your heir twice?

 

[Rexos]

Yeah.....as you could get an heir as you like,

 

[SKOTy]

As for prestige dumping - create a subject and plactate rulers each time you get above 0 prestige, it's endless sink of prestige.

I'd say even world conquest should be possible in you position.

 

[Rexos]

As for prestige dumping - create a subject and plactate rulers each time you get above 0 prestige, it's endless sink of prestige.

I'd say even world conquest should be possible in you position.

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For prestige dumping, THAT'S GREAT, I neve thought about that, thanks

 

[TheMeInTeam]

As for prestige dumping - create a subject and plactate rulers each time you get above 0 prestige, it's endless sink of prestige.

I'd say even world conquest should be possible in you position.

With how absolutism and revolutionary interact it's probably possible to 1-tag the world if you can beat the largest nations by the time you switch into rev government. Chip 500-600 dev off the largest blobs first, then work down. It's not long before every nation in the world is in 1-shot range.

A conservative estimate of 3/3/3 ruler and no PP with ADM focus gives us bit over 13k admin and 9600 DIP over the last 100 years. That's pretty close to coring the world outright by itself with 100 absolutism and admin efficiency from tech, and even stock 27 month (with administrative) coring rate handle the admin throughput if you just stay near 100% OE all the time + give rest to vassals.

All of the above ignores vassal-based WC where you don't actually absorb all the land directly, and also ignores the possibility of bypassing coring several thousand development for a 1-tag by simply annexing the last dozen + nations within a month or two.