Can i get some help with a patrician councilor issue?

[Xenrek]

sooo, have run into a problem ive never seen before in the last 2 weeks. and its not the game itself because playing as non-patricians still works fine

anyways, anytime im playing patrician, usually an hour or so into play, ill run into an issue, randomly the option to swap councilor positions is no longer even present on the menu, i cant assign new councilors to empty spots, and if i try to assign any of them jobs on the map, it will refuse to place them. this will continue until i completely close out the game and reboot it :/

verified game files, i have no mods on these games (was dicking around in ironman for achievements) so was just wondering if this was a known or previously encountered issue?

like i said, its always within an hour or so of loading the saves, and only on patricians, i can play 3 separate games as tribals/feudals/nomads from 769 to end-date and never encounter the issue

 

[RagingJaws]

I'll assume when you say "Patrician", you're not leading the Republic at the moment. Double check that you're not trying to swap positions on your Liege's council.

 

[Xenrek]

no its my own council, and ive encountered the issue both as the patrician and the Doge. ill right click the character (my brother, so i know its mine since he cant be on the liege council) and just all options to swap council position arent even in the menu, not grayed out, just not there. and when i go to say, add a new steward because the old one died, despite having 7 adult male dynasty members and about 10 non-dynasty adult males in court, nothing shows in the applicable NPC list. and say i want to reassign my spymaster back to venice to plot, or give my martial the job of training troops, i cant, it just wont let me place them anywhere.

basically anything related to the council/council jobs just stops functioning :/

 

[RagingJaws]

The only other thing I can think of is that you can't swap Councillors around if you have Full council authority. My vassals have never managed to get strong enough to put that yoke over me, so I have no experience with that last form of Council strength and if that is true.

Might be a bug. Screenies and the like in the bug report section would be advised.

 

[smellymummy]

maybe because you removed some from the council? If a character has the fired from council opinion modifier then you can't give them any position until it expires

 

[Xenrek]

@RagingJaws nope, 0 council authority, since i was playing merchant republic, there wasnt really a possibility of factions arising, if it happens again tonight or tomorrow ill grab a couple screenies of the situation and post it

@smellymummy nope aswell, most of those nobles were ones i invited specifically because my family wasnt showing up in the list, as for family members, i dont remove them because i generally use their council positions to keep them busy so they dont seduce my wife, and dont hate me as much. (which still wouldnt explain why i couldnt swap councilor positions)