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Hi,

there is two countie that i want (they used to be mine! I want them back....) but i don't want to wait 10 years or suffer penalty if i attack for the second right after i won the first. So my question is simple, can i declare war for both counties at the same time?

Thanks
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If you have personal claims on the areas, such as inherited claims or fabricated claims, you can press all claims at once. De-jure claims, however, can only be pressed one by one. For taking over entire duchies with a single war the best way is to be a king/emperor, and browse the list of the target duchy's claimants and press their claim (invite them to your court and then declare war).
 

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If you have personal claims on the areas, such as inherited claims or fabricated claims, you can press all claims at once. De-jure claims, however, can only be pressed one by one. For taking over entire duchies with a single war the best way is to be a king/emperor, and browse the list of the target duchy's claimants and press their claim (invite them to your court and then declare war).
This is correct, but as I recall the press all claims option only works if they are strong claims, so it wouldn't include most inherited claims (unless it was a claim you got as a pretender), since they are usually weak once inherited.
 

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Ok, so i can press multiple claims.... how? I'm now officially the king of Scotland (usurped the title) and i want all the territories left (7) to be part of my kingdom. The territories are divided between two dukes, I would like to attack one and take everything he has at once (since its part of my kingdoms!), but i can only declare war for one county at a time.
 

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Ok, so i can press multiple claims.... how? I'm now officially the king of Scotland (usurped the title) and i want all the territories left (7) to be part of my kingdom. The territories are divided between two dukes, I would like to attack one and take everything he has at once (since its part of my kingdoms!), but i can only declare war for one county at a time.

You have to recognise there are different types of claim...

The de jure claim is what you are talking about, i.e. I'm the King of Scotland, that is part of Scotland and thus it should be mine!

That is a one at a time thing. It is a relatively weak claim, but it is a persistant one. It would take 100 years of the province being held by a different Kingdom to loose your De Jure claim I think...

For personal claims (the ones that appear on the character sheet of your ruler) you can press multiple. Best way to get them is to have you Chancellor faking claims for them all and then pressing them all at once...

Note also, IIRC, when you win a De Jure claim, the current ruler becomes your vassal (not sure what happens if they were a Duke and that was their only personal demesne). In a personal claim the province becomes part of your demesne to keep or hand out...
 

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Note also, IIRC, when you win a De Jure claim, the current ruler becomes your vassal (not sure what happens if they were a Duke and that was their only personal demesne). In a personal claim the province becomes part of your demesne to keep or hand out...

If they're an independent duke holding a single county with no other counties in their duchy , in my experience (1.08) their Duchy disappears and they end up as a vassal count of yours.
 

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and about how, if you have claims that could be pressed together, there will be option of "Press all claims" in declare war dialog". It's some time hided in a middle of long list.
 

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As soon as I have usurped a kingdom I usually do the following things:

I declare ducal war war on the remaining counties / dukes for their capital. This way I get most of the counties for myself. Then I wait until the ceasefire ends and attack for the next capital. To speed things up I usually usurp duchies when it's possible to generate new war targets AND assassinate dukes when there's a good chance of success.

Inviting claimaints and pressing their claims might be faster but I prefer the slow way as I can acquire a bunch of counties personally that way. They can't run anywhere anyways :p
 

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Actually mach better solution is simply to offer vassalisation. If they are same religion and culture they will argee, if not some culture, some gold some tames make them agree. If not usurp duchy and after old ex duke die new count will like you ength to agree. Mach faster the wars.
 

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Actually mach better solution is simply to offer vassalisation. If they are same religion and culture they will argee, if not some culture, some gold some tames make them agree. If not usurp duchy and after old ex duke die new count will like you ength to agree. Mach faster the wars.

That's true for the starting kingdom. Everyone besides the former king will eventually agree to swear fealty.
For all the other kingdoms a different way has to be taken as those guys will most likely not be of your culture.