Can I bring this kingdom into the empire?

[keynes2.0]

So through great skill (read: married my marshal to a random junior princess and got lucky) I managed to wed into the Hungarian succession as a Byzantine duke. The Hungarian kings grandson and heir is a landless greek Arpad in my court married to my daughter matrilineally. The second in line is their son, my grandson, a proper greek of the Tournikes dynasty. Now I know that my grandson will inherit so long as he doesn't die young. But can he inherit in such a way that he brings Hungary inside the Byzantine empire along with him? I am only a duke, not emperor so vassalizing the king isn't an option. I tried making the heir a vassal of the emperor then using the console to kill the hungarian king but that just made the new king leave the empire and take his lands with him. I suppose I could switch to elective secession so I play as the grandson and swear fealty to the emperor, but I'd rather play as the son who I've groomed for the job. So does anyone have any suggestions on how to bring the kingdom into the fold?

 

[TheTedinator]

If the grandson has or gets a claim, you might be able to press it. Since he's of your dynasty, he'll be your vassal.

 

[brxbrx]

If the grandson has or gets a claim, you might be able to press it. Since he's of your dynasty, he'll be your vassal.

No, he's only a duke. He would need to try and get the emperor to make a move. So it's unlikely. A better way would be to install the emperor as king of Hungary, but that would take several generations of marriages and murders, if not more.
Perhaps if you can get a claimant of the emperor's dynasty, that would work.

Also, hoping that the AI will swear fealty is a lost cause. King titles always give the AI the "I am King!" modifier for decision making, which means they aren't likely to accede to demands.

 

[Smaragd]

My suggestion is quite simple, kill the most part of the pretenders to the throne...invite them to your court and do that hard but necessary work:closedeyes: (if your purse is fat enough)

 

[keynes2.0]

The problem isn't the inheritance, I already have secured that. What I'm wondering is about bringing that inheritance into the empire.

 

[icon41gimp]

You'll need a kingdom title to be able to inherit another kingdom and not leave the empire.

 

[keynes2.0]

So if I give the heir of hungry a title like king of armenia or somesuch then he will stay in the empire upon inheritance. That makes sense. Thank you.

 

[icon41gimp]

It may be the case that all you need is High Crown Authority which I'm sure you probably do.

 

[keynes2.0]

Crown authority is medium. Too bad I can't plot to get the emperor to increase it.

 

[name_here]

If you inherit, you can offer allegiance to the emperor. Otherwise, your only option is to find a way to get someone with a claim on it in your court, get the emperor to be of the same dynasty as the person with the claim, and pray he presses it. I think the "I am a KING!" modifier is actually just an automatic, do not pass go, fail instantly clause. Even with a same culture minor king with 100 relations and me as Augustus, it's been completely impossible.