Can an option be added to change temperature to Fahrenheit?

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NASA used/uses metric though. ;)

I don't think any temperature scale is superior in every day life from one to another. Both is just being used to it.
For feeling temperature I never needed more precision than a whole Celsius Degree, only needed it for metrology calibration, which is scientfic again either way.

The thing is, why does the USA needs it's special way, if both are roughly equal in learning and using them in everyday life, why not just stay with one system, which also is used scientifically, why the need for 2 seperate system in the USA.. but oh well.

I don't mind if a temperature toggle is added, atleast as long as Kelvin is added aswell, as I already posted in the thread. And I am serious about that, but I also would like if the world would change to the metric calendar from the french revolution.
 
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There only two kinds of countries in the world those that put a man on the moon and those that use Celsius.

But for real I would very much like this feature as I never bothered to remember Celsius after highschool and just go based on the symbol. Actually knowing what the temperature is would be would be nice.
The Soviets beat you to space, and after you've been on the moon, you stopped funding NASA. Sneed more.
 
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The Soviets beat you to space, and after you've been on the moon, you stopped funding NASA. Sneed more.
NASA literally just sent up one of the most advanced pieces of equipment humanity has ever created, that will let us glimpse the creation of reality itself
 
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The ability of people to talk about stuff omg!

This thread should have contained two or three posts at most:

1. I want this
2. Makes sense, I do too
3. (dev post) Yeah ok guys maybe it will happen, acknowledged, thanks for asking.

Man what did you discuss in 60 posts, I wonder!
 
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Everyone knows Fahrenheit is for weather and Celsius for science and computers. 100 is summer heat. 0 is something you never want to see. 15 or so and road salt stops working.

But yes as an American I need a fahrenheit display. Plus speed in MPH would be helpful.
Exactly. The Farenheit scale is more graduated, meaning the difference between 1 degree Fahrenheit is smaller than the difference between 1 degree Celcius. This allows a more precise measurement. In the summer you might say it's 87 degrees Farenheit, Nobody is going to say it's 30.5 Celcius. In Celcius there are only 100 degrees difference between freezing water and boiling water. In Farenheit there are 180 degrees difference between freezing water and boiling water.

The only way that Celcius makes any sense, is that 0 degrees is the freezing point of water and 100 degrees is the boiling point of water. In no other way does Celcius make sense, 0 degrees isn't even absolute zero. It would make more sense to use Kelvin in everyday use than Celcius.
 
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To be fair, everyone and everything uses Kelvin (and poorly designed things use Celsius). Celsius and Farenheit are just cosmetics. Its like lipstick but it is useless because you need at least one more calculation step to reach your solution if you do not use Kelvin. But science is not beautiful, it is practical. Thats why you put lipstick on it. Now we all just discussed for 4 pages which lipstick is better.
 
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So, by your logic, using water as the baseline is better than using actual human experience?

Which is easier to understand

a) 0 is a cold winter day, 100 is a hot summer day (i.e., just above the average human core temp).
or
b) -18 is a cold winter day, 38 is a hot summer day.

My guess is that you are wrong. If someone had 0 experience with either system, something they could relate to (how they feel as opposed to how a volume of water reacts) would be the more logical system.
Temperatures don't mean quite as much for comfort levels as you think they do. Humidity matters a lot more. 90 F in Italy in the summer is generally fine because the air is very dry, same for a place like Arizona. However 90 F in the humid Netherlands is a serious heat wave and feels very uncomfortable. 100 F is pretty much a national catastrophe, but in Italy it is only then that they start thinking about maybe drinking some extra water.

0 degrees C is also very relevant in that aspect as the humidity tends to change a lot below freezing point. It is also at this point that you may expect small lakes to freeze over or a water container that you left outside. It is generally more useful and more applicable. 0 F just means very cold and there is no meaningful distinction between -2 or 2 F (-19 and -17 C respetively). That's why Fahrenheit is an objectively worse system, even for human experience

Other stuff like sun intensity is not even included in relative experience, so yeah, other weather stuff matters. Temperature by itself generally doesn't say much, especially not 0 or 100 freedom units.
 
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To be fair, everyone and everything uses Kelvin (and poorly designed things use Celsius). Celsius and Farenheit are just cosmetics. Its like lipstick but it is useless because you need at least one more calculation step to reach your solution if you do not use Kelvin. But science is not beautiful, it is practical. Thats why you put lipstick on it. Now we all just discussed for 4 pages which lipstick is better.
In terms of temperature delta's Celsius is indistinguishable from Kelvin, hence it's still more useful than Fahrenheit
 
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Lot of insults being thrown around ostensibly by Europeans towards Americans for using a system the Europeans invented.

and for that matter, a lot of “ra ra go America” for a country that uses a system that again, was invented by Europeans.
 
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Lot of insults being thrown around ostensibly by Europeans towards Americans for using a system the Europeans invented.

and for that matter, a lot of “ra ra go America” for a country that uses a system that again, was invented by Europeans.
We invented a lot of things that we don't use anymore, because we invented newer stuff that made them obsolete.
 
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I am pretty sure if you take a denizen from Austin, Texas and one from Williston, North Dakota at least one of them would disagree, if not both.

Also


Where I live, 0 is freezing, 10 is cold, 20 is warm, 30 is hot, 40 is burning hot, 50 is a downright dangerous for health.

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By the way, are you arguying that a decimally divided system is better by definition ? Are you absolutely sure you want to go there ?

I don't think they'd disagree with 100 being very hot or 0 being very cold, just regular for their zipcodes in certain months. Obviously people in some areas have adapted to temperature extremes, but it is still basically my point that you have 100 (maybe 120) points of climatic range.

I do think that a 0 to 100 system makes sense for climatic temperature. Obviously there can always be extremes beyond that. In the north east, about 0 to 90 was about the normal range, in the South East now more like 20 to 100 in practice but with more humidity and less heat than the example of Austin.

The rest of the imperial system is annoying to actually use, but Fahrenheit actually makes sense if all we are doing is measuring human sense of temperature (and little else beyond that).
 
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I love this discussion :D

Actually I think both scales are just fine for daily life. Actually I don't care about the granularity (not a deal if it's 20.0 or 20.5 degrees...) or about the point where water boils (I am not using a thermometer when cooking water... )...

Only good scale is Kelvin!

EDIT: Btw, even if I will use the Celsius scale, I am of course absolutely in favor to add Fahrenheit as an option for those used to it!
 
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No reason not to add it, QoL and all that.

In terms of which is the "better" scale - you're all wrong and so am I! Against Celcius - 100 is overrated as an "intuitive" scale as people tend to work at least as well in fractions as decimals all else being equal. Against Farenheit - the extra granularity is pointless, I don't notice a difference of 1 degree Celcius most of the time - and the "0 to 100 is an intuitive range thing" makes no sense to me - 0 F is colder than I've ever experienced, 100 F is well above what you'll see in say Glasgow, fairly unremarkable in Madrid.
 
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Nobody is going to say it's 30.5 Celcius.

... are you afraid of decimal points ? You do know the rest of the world use them all the time, right ? It's a magical thing that allows you to have an infinity of values between two different values.

Do they not teach anything beyond natural numbers in the US education system ? Is that why you're still stuck with the imperial system ? That would explain why you describe your sizes with two different units instead of just using a rational number with a single unit.
 
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I don't think they'd disagree with 100 being very hot or 0 being very cold, just regular for their zipcodes in certain months. Obviously people in some areas have adapted to temperature extremes, but it is still basically my point that you have 100 (maybe 120) points of climatic range.

I do think that a 0 to 100 system makes sense for climatic temperature. Obviously there can always be extremes beyond that. In the north east, about 0 to 90 was about the normal range, in the South East now more like 20 to 100 in practice but with more humidity and less heat than the example of Austin.

The rest of the imperial system is annoying to actually use, but Fahrenheit actually makes sense if all we are doing is measuring human sense of temperature (and little else beyond that).
Yeah 0 to 100 degrees in terms of human perception makes sense, which is why Fahrenheit makes sense for climate temperature. In Celsius 0 degrees is not that cold, and 100 degrees will for 100% certainly be lethal. In Fahrenheit 0 degrees is the temperature at which most people will say it's cold as sh**, obviously it can get much colder though which is when we use negative for temperatures that are extreme. In Fahrenheit average body temperature is 98.6, and 100 is pretty much the hottest we can live in long term for extended periods of time. Obviously it can get hotter, and that's why anything over 100 is hot as sh**, like in Arizona or the Mideast where it can get close to 120.
 
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