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EarendilHE said:
Why releasing BB and Prussia?
Sweden doesnt have the rights to posses Danzig? :rofl:
Will be the game more exciting? Why Spain doesnt release the Incas or France Genua?
A rule like this should be made earlier/before game starting. BB/Prussia offlimits...or something like this.
Well if i loose Danzig, ill demand 10000 ducats!
There is no strategical need for a Prussia. Dou you want a player in Germany? Sweden could be! *just a small joke Austria :rolleyes:

I vote against the fortress rule! Restrictions like this dont bring more fun to the game. I think we dont need more wars. Another reason is like MMC_Bismarck said, it favors high manpower countries as France, but is VERY negative for Portugal. No rule is fair for all. Again,Late game doesnt need a push for wars. Too much editing and ruling lower the fun anyway. Just my opinion...

BTW, Its 30-years-war time next session. :D

I vote against restriction of CC´s and shipyards too. Nations are able to maintain bigger armies to besiege/assault big forts. THIS causes wars and fun. Believe me, no restrictions is often better. :)

1: Do you really think no restrictions is more fun; well let me send you a save from a game with CC's and Shipyards and Fortresses ALL over ! Really; no fun at all.

2:Besides; you get to build 50 Percent ! sweden has about 25 provs ... or more I'm not going to count them.
So you can build 13 CC/shipyards/fortresses higher then MEDIUM

3:It brings flavor to the game; CC are good for manpower; shipyards are good for ship-amount; Fortresses are good if you want to be defensive. Just think about the possebilities ...

4:It doesn't need any editing at all !!; and if someone builds too many; or loses provs, i'll do it between sessions; and its no hard work for me.

5:What is the use of having BIGBIGBIG army's ?; IF the rule is not coming trough; everybody will be able to build CC's everywhere; and everyone will have BIG army's; and that is just plain nonsense; AND it is NOT in favor of portugal; BUT in favor of France and Spain !.

6:portugal and Holland get a special treatement in europe; they get to build High fortreses in 3 of their Cap fortresses; and at least 2 CC's and 2 Shipyards.

7: peepz will try to conquer more in the colonies; or colonize in DIFFERENT regions; right now France is ONLY in Canada; England is ONLY in NA. Holland is ONLY in South africa.

come on !; don't tell me its a bad idea; at least give a good reason for it ;)
 

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Oh yes; about Prussia;

it is a good nation;

and finally a nation that is native to Germany; A VERY BIG CULTURE;

And it Has GOOD Leaders; monarchs. So is more powerful and fun to play then any other nation we can create;

it is historical;

Because it has potential; it can become a alliance friend and I think we need more peepz for alliances.

Oh yes; another thing, what about only 2 peepz per alliance; would make more sense and would be more balanced; JUST A PROPOSITION !!! :rofl:
 

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Could you stick my name down as holland please.
 

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cheech said:
Could you stick my name down as holland please.

It IS in the search thread :p ... I'll ask yoohoo to put in in the first thread.

EDIT: how will you be able to play imperial europe and Call of death at the same time ?
 

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Another (balanced?) suggestion:
10% max of total provs
20% mighty
40% large
medium or smaller not limited

CC´s and shipyards limited to 60 % of total provs

but releasing prussia is still crazy to me :p
 

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Dude that would really suck for holland. I need CCs and shipyards everywhere. I dont think prussia should be released unless everyone agrees either. I dont mind either way myself.
 

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cheech said:
Dude that would really suck for holland. I need CCs and shipyards everywhere. I dont think prussia should be released unless everyone agrees either. I dont mind either way myself.

you can built 2 shipyards and 2 CC's; in your home provs

Because you are holland; and also you can get shipyards in your colonies ...

20 percent of total/provs in region = ShipyardsORFotresses.
 

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Vote !

Regions;
Europe = one region; Gets 60 percent points of total provs
Colonies = get 20 percent of total provs; each region gets ONE MAX fortress and ONE shipyard minimum; if a region surpasses 3 (15 provs) Points its can have more. Remember that Colonies CANT have CC's; hardcoded in the game ...
*Siberia
*North-East amerca
*North-West america
*Mexico; mid america + islands
*South america
*Africa
*India (and persia; oman)
*South east asia
*Australia and new zeeland
*China; north west siberia (where there is a coast).
*Japan


1: My 60 percent Rule; where you get to build 12 things/on 20 provs 1 Cost for every Large fortress; 0.5 for every EXTRA upgrade.

For example: 4 CC; 2 Shipyards; 4 Large Fortresses; of wich 1 is MAXIMUM; and 2 are MIGHTY; but you have less CC and Shipyards

2: 40 Percent CC and Shipyards; you get to buy 8 things on 20 Provs
And you have a Rule that is seperated from CC and shipyards; with Fotresses; 20Percent/10Percent/5Percent Large/mighty/max


for example: 4 CC; 4 Shipyards; 1MAX;2MIGHTY;4LARGE

3:OR OFFCOURSE YOU VOTE NO! to everythin ... and i'll be spamming CC's and Fotresses !!! :D AND France and Sweden Too !! :eek:


Vote !

-Netherlands and portugal are exempts from this rule regarding their CORES ? or some other proposition for them

-12/or more Points for everybody; or dependant on country size ?/ for europe
 
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1 yes,acceptable
2 yes

both rules are ok :)
 
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1: YES

2: NO

Comments- too many fortresses ... Really not nice for gameplay. ;). It makes a totaly of 7 provs out of 20 Heavily fortified !!! bah ... What will Russia Say if there are 7 BIG fortresses in snowy finland ? :wacko:

3: NO

Comments- TOO many fortresses; TOO many CC's; Bah !
 
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too many??? if sweden has landtech 60 its nothing :p
 

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EarendilHE said:
too many??? if sweden has landtech 60 its nothing :p

Poland wil not have such a thing; and playing more with battles and less with fortresses; (a little less) is good

My proposal also incorporates stratigic descisions ... Like you CAN overbuild your terretory with 6 MAX or 12 LARGE or 9 MIGHTY fortresses ... But then you have no shipyards or CC's; you are a defensive nation.

you can also be a balanced; Naval or land nation
 

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Other things to be tought about !

-Netherlands and portugal are exempts from this rule regarding their CORES ? or some other proposition for them

-12/or more Points for everybody; or dependant on country size ?


ADAM= 1
EAREND= 2/1
CHEECH=
FEESPOIR= 1
GEN JOOHOO(Has a Veto)= 1
FLAMEY=
HAL=
ANDREW=
VIKING= 1/(2?)

Vote count:

1: |||||
2: ||
3:

Prov Count:

Sweden = 19 Provs; 10 points (lets say 50 percent)
England = 20 Provs; 10 points
France = 36 Provs; 18 points
Spain = 29 Provs; 15 points
Russia = 32 Provs; 16 points
Austria = 33 Provs; 17 points
Ottomans = 16 European Provs; 15 Nafrica provs; 12 Asia provs (of wich otto's consist now =S) ... dunno what do to with ottomans
Poland = 23 Provs; 12 points
 
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I vote for rule 1 but, to keep things simple, lets downsize it to 50%.

Portuguese and dutch european cores exempt, counting the rest for the rule.

Russia would be divided in Europe and Northern asian regions
 

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Guys, that is just too complicated, I don't get it anymore. But as long as I have no limit for my core provinces, it is ok with me.

But still I am against creating Prussia!

Edit: I am against 2 players alliance limit as me as a little country will no longer be able to be protected well. Unfair for little countries like Holland and me and good for big like Spain and France. You always seem to advantage the big even more.
 

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I vote against the 2 player max alliance.

On the other hand... I must agree with Viking: it's getting too complicated, this mid-game rule changing/adding.
Maybe just limit CCs & SYs independently of country size?

Let's forget about Prussia until there's someone to fill Russia's shoes.
 
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Feerspoir said:
I vote against the 2 player max alliance.

On the other hand... I must agree with Viking: it's getting too complicated, this mid-game rule changing/adding.
Maybe just limit CCs & SYs independently of country size?

Let's forget about Prussia until there's someone to fill Russia's shoes.

Vote for the 2 player max alliance; but have mixed feelings;

Its not very complicated; once you count the provs; its just for balance ... and also we won't have tp worry about it too much right now.

Yes agreed with prussia ...