The Plan and Ideas for the Abbasid Caliphate and Mutazelite Islam
Just compiling here some ideas from other threads and some of the material that has been worked on by Calipah and myself.
The Order of the Crescent
In the beta4 build there are a whole bunch of new events created by Calipah, a few by me, and we also edited many of the existing events. These are worth reading, or simply encountering as you play the Abbasid Caliphate. One of the issues we tackled was what happens in Anatolia if the caliphate secures this area. There is an event covering choices for governance. The easy option gives it to Arabs, the tougher one gives it to Turkish emirs, but this is also the only way to get Turkish culture. Finally, there is a third option to establish an Islamic military order akin to the TO and have them rule Anatolia and to either hold back Byzantium or capture Greece (and beyond!).
So, there is a new nation now in the game using the TUR tag and a modified version of the ottomans monarchs. (I edited to increase everyone’s MIL rating and decrease their ADM and/or DIP scores).
There are a few events for them, mostly replications of Caliphate events with reversed options, and some events to reverse ai diploannexation by the Caliphate. So, more events will need to be drafted over the coming months, and a proper leader file considered. Feel free to discuss ideas.
Caliphate Looks West
An entirely new branch of possibilities is being thought out. Based around a cleric in the reign of Salim. If not suppressed but taken on instead as an advisor, he outlives Salim. Then youenter the reign of the greatest of the Caliphate’s monarchs, Ismail V. If Ismail choses to retain the cleric, everything changes for the Caliphate. Most remaining events are slept as a result, while an new batch are effectively woken. This will be either reworked versions from the ‘normal’ storyline, or else entirely new events reflecting the caliphates change in direction.
Essentially, the caliphate returns to its former role of centralising authority under the Caliph and enshrining Islam as a centre of learning and artistic achievement. One result of this will be the shift to the Orthodox tech group. Another will be an eventual détente with Byzantium. These events have not been drafted, they are only in my head at present. I promise I will start writing something more concrete soon.
Mutazelite Islam
This concept is advancing well. Calipah has written a number of events that I will post in the next thread.
Based in Cordoba, the heresy is ‘optional’ for the Cordoba player, but will be the default ai action. Once established there, it will become part of the power struggle within the Islamic world between the two dominant nations of Caliphate and Cordoba.
The Mutazelite Islam tag is already in the game, replacing Shiite. This cosmetic only at this stage. It reads Mutazelite but acts as Shiite for all other purposes. There is a lot to resolve here, and if people can contribute to a list of what will need ‘translation’ that would be great.
We know we have to re-write the Caliphate events that deal with Shiite uprisings. Calipah’s plan is to rework these as ethnic disorder, or perhaps a minor civil war.
We know Oman’s leadership is Shia. This is a valuable thing, because it prevents diploannexation of Oman. We can worsen their relations to prevent this happening, but not forever. If anyone has ideas on how this can be handled to prevent that awful Diploannex stuff, let us know. Maybe they could be Bhuddists? (The leadership, not the provinces, relax Calipah …)
Are there other elements that need to be revised?
Just compiling here some ideas from other threads and some of the material that has been worked on by Calipah and myself.
The Order of the Crescent
In the beta4 build there are a whole bunch of new events created by Calipah, a few by me, and we also edited many of the existing events. These are worth reading, or simply encountering as you play the Abbasid Caliphate. One of the issues we tackled was what happens in Anatolia if the caliphate secures this area. There is an event covering choices for governance. The easy option gives it to Arabs, the tougher one gives it to Turkish emirs, but this is also the only way to get Turkish culture. Finally, there is a third option to establish an Islamic military order akin to the TO and have them rule Anatolia and to either hold back Byzantium or capture Greece (and beyond!).
So, there is a new nation now in the game using the TUR tag and a modified version of the ottomans monarchs. (I edited to increase everyone’s MIL rating and decrease their ADM and/or DIP scores).
There are a few events for them, mostly replications of Caliphate events with reversed options, and some events to reverse ai diploannexation by the Caliphate. So, more events will need to be drafted over the coming months, and a proper leader file considered. Feel free to discuss ideas.
Caliphate Looks West
An entirely new branch of possibilities is being thought out. Based around a cleric in the reign of Salim. If not suppressed but taken on instead as an advisor, he outlives Salim. Then youenter the reign of the greatest of the Caliphate’s monarchs, Ismail V. If Ismail choses to retain the cleric, everything changes for the Caliphate. Most remaining events are slept as a result, while an new batch are effectively woken. This will be either reworked versions from the ‘normal’ storyline, or else entirely new events reflecting the caliphates change in direction.
Essentially, the caliphate returns to its former role of centralising authority under the Caliph and enshrining Islam as a centre of learning and artistic achievement. One result of this will be the shift to the Orthodox tech group. Another will be an eventual détente with Byzantium. These events have not been drafted, they are only in my head at present. I promise I will start writing something more concrete soon.
Mutazelite Islam
This concept is advancing well. Calipah has written a number of events that I will post in the next thread.
Based in Cordoba, the heresy is ‘optional’ for the Cordoba player, but will be the default ai action. Once established there, it will become part of the power struggle within the Islamic world between the two dominant nations of Caliphate and Cordoba.
The Mutazelite Islam tag is already in the game, replacing Shiite. This cosmetic only at this stage. It reads Mutazelite but acts as Shiite for all other purposes. There is a lot to resolve here, and if people can contribute to a list of what will need ‘translation’ that would be great.
We know we have to re-write the Caliphate events that deal with Shiite uprisings. Calipah’s plan is to rework these as ethnic disorder, or perhaps a minor civil war.
We know Oman’s leadership is Shia. This is a valuable thing, because it prevents diploannexation of Oman. We can worsen their relations to prevent this happening, but not forever. If anyone has ideas on how this can be handled to prevent that awful Diploannex stuff, let us know. Maybe they could be Bhuddists? (The leadership, not the provinces, relax Calipah …)
Are there other elements that need to be revised?