Cabinet Ministry : Imagine

[Kraakstorm]

I remember a good idea was developped in CK and HOI which was a kind of cabinet. So...

Imagine in EU3 that for every monarch you have, you'll have to compose a cabinet by taking sames or differents historicals personnages with trigger and events following your choice...

Exemple : I'm George III of UK and I decide to name as Prime Minister Lord Pitt who was against french policy... If trigger or event came to change the chambers ... Fox can become the new Prime Minister with flexibility towards french policy.

Of course, this exemple is correct during the years 1790-1806, but we can imagine such things between 1453-1789 ?

What do you think of it ?

 

[Rythin]

That's a wonderful idea but would require a lot of additional research, so I doubt it would be introduced.

 

[hildoceras]

Good idea Huh... do you have an alternative prime minister for Ethiopia from 1718 to 1725 please ? ... huh, even a name for the actual prime minister at this time o ?

 

[Fiftypence]

Yep, it would be a nightmare to find people for the more obscure countries, but I like the general idea. Maybe a cabinet composed of game generated random characters, with important real individuals such as Lord Pitt appearing in game during the appropriate time frame?

 

[Skarion]

Yep, it would be a nightmare to find people for the more obscure countries, but I like the general idea. Maybe a cabinet composed of game generated random characters, with important real individuals such as Lord Pitt appearing in game during the appropriate time frame?

Maybe in CK, but EU is a too historical closed game to start to start creating people out from no where.

 

[stnylan]

Maybe in CK, but EU is a too historical closed game to start to start creating people out from no where.

I don't know. IIRC in Victoria after the game has run out of historical generals/admirals for the period it will randomly generate new ones. It would quire some mechanism along the lines of leadership however.

 

[unmerged(53986)]

A few historical here and there, and a few international ones open for the first picker..

 

[stnylan]

Of course, if something like this were to be included hopefully events would enable ones to be added as well.

 

[unmerged(47118)]

I think this is a really interesting idea since it can be done in many ways. I'd like to see a political aspect in the game. There should be political partys in the game (royalists, liberals...) with different atributes. Having many conservative leaders in your cabinet would decrease your tech efficiency but they would be perfect for decreasing revolt risk, liberals will help your tech efficiency, having militars would increase your army quality and offensive doctrine... the idea is killing the DP sliders and having a cabinet with different political forces.
I don't know if you played an old game called Merchant Prince in which politics was an important aspect.

 

[Kraakstorm]

I think this is a really interesting idea since it can be done in many ways. I'd like to see a political aspect in the game. There should be political partys in the game (royalists, liberals...) with different atributes. Having many conservative leaders in your cabinet would decrease your tech efficiency but they would be perfect for decreasing revolt risk, liberals will help your tech efficiency, having militars would increase your army quality and offensive doctrine... the idea is killing the DP sliders and having a cabinet with different political forces.
I don't know if you played an old game called Merchant Prince in which politics was an important aspect.

You have just understand the way I thought ...

 

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You have just understand the way I thought ...

We just have to hope Johan reads this thread

 

[Ayeshteni]

I think this is a really interesting idea since it can be done in many ways. I'd like to see a political aspect in the game. There should be political partys in the game (royalists, liberals...) with different atributes. Having many conservative leaders in your cabinet would decrease your tech efficiency but they would be perfect for decreasing revolt risk, liberals will help your tech efficiency, having militars would increase your army quality and offensive doctrine... the idea is killing the DP sliders and having a cabinet with different political forces.
I don't know if you played an old game called Merchant Prince in which politics was an important aspect.

Oh I agree, but the concept of 'liberals' and 'conservatives' and such are of a much later time (well from the age of Enlightenment at its earliest). What about the 1500-1700's? This time was dominated by noble factions, not ideological ones.

Though I agree that some form of 'powers behind the throne' aspect would be nice.

Ayeshteni

 

[hildoceras]

a way to replace the aristocratic slider then... from merchant liberal to ultra-aristocratic party (or three sided as in HoI, with merchant/parliament-royalist/absolutist-aristocratic)

 

[Smirfy]

a way to replace the aristocratic slider then... from merchant liberal to ultra-aristocratic party (or three sided as in HoI, with merchant/parliament-royalist/absolutist-aristocratic)

Whig-centre-Tory

The whig end of the Slider would be pure Republican at the centre little could distinguish a whig from a tory and at full tory lies Absolutism

Would the correct French model be

Jacobin-Girondist-Aristo?

In Britain the centre tended to be (and still is) the majority

 

[unmerged(47118)]

The research work in this aspect will be clasifying the different kinds of political partys in the different countries (it would be perfect to have 3 or 4 different parties in each country)
Of course this is easier in europeans countries rather than in american or african countries like Xhosa. I think these natives should only have one or maybe 2 different factions (chieftain party= narrominded).
Events like "Political Crisis" that already exist in EU2 could be used here provoking chaos in your government (political crisis could change some of your supporters into other kind politicians with different ideology)


EDIT: For Spain I'd choose 4 factions:

-Catholic party (the power of the Church was obvious): they would give narrominded, interventionism and mercantilism.
-Aristocratic party (nobles): a cabinet formed with many nobles would give you aristocracy and narrowminded.
-Militar party (militars were really important in spanish policies): offensive doctrine, quality and narrowminded.
- Liberal party (they would appear later): free subjects, free trade and innovatioveness.

 

[Skarion]

Cheers Orionius,

The great people and personalities of the past are on hand to support you. Take history in your hands and call personalities like Sir Isaac Newton, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart or René Descartes to your court.

You seem to have been correct

 

[Nikolai]

* Nation building is flexible: decide your own form of government, the structure of your society, trade politics and much more. The possibilities are endless.

This might have basis in something like this too.

 

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* Nation building is flexible: decide your own form of government, the structure of your society, trade politics and much more. The possibilities are endless.



Sounds like things can get way too ahistorical way too easily.

 

[Nikolai]

You seem to be good at getting much out of little I see. And the most important thing is that it could have happened if so and so, and that the game is fun, IMHO.

 

[Ludek]

I remember a good idea was developped in CK and HOI which was a kind of cabinet. So...

Imagine in EU3 that for every monarch you have, you'll have to compose a cabinet by taking sames or differents historicals personnages with trigger and events following your choice...

Exemple : I'm George III of UK and I decide to name as Prime Minister Lord Pitt who was against french policy... If trigger or event came to change the chambers ... Fox can become the new Prime Minister with flexibility towards french policy.

Of course, this exemple is correct during the years 1790-1806, but we can imagine such things between 1453-1789 ?

What do you think of it ?

Acording to anounced EU3 features I quess we will get something liek this,
though it's called court. Full text bellow:
________
The great people and personalities of the past are on hand to support you.
Take history in your hands and call personalities like Sir Isaac Newton,
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart or René Descartes to your court.
________

No info about events contected with them .. but I'm prettu sure that engine
will allow this. I hope it will be like goverment figures from HOI series.