C.O.R.E HOI - South America

Procer · May 22, 2003

This is what i posted in Guinessmonkey's thread about the unitnames.csv mod, the unit names for ARG. Might be useful here, altough it is not very accurate (specially regarding unit sizes) and the * means pure speculation. Anyway it's just for the fun and i think it's very realistic anyway.

ARG;0;RI 1 'Patricios'
ARG;0;RI 3 'Belgrano'
ARG;0;RI 5
ARG;0;RI 9 'Pagola'
ARG;0;RI 17
ARG;0;RI 19
ARG;0;RI 20 'Cazadores de los Andes'
ARG;0;RI 15*
ARG;0;RI 18*
ARG;0;RI 23*
ARG;0;RI 27*
ARG;0;RI 30*
ARG;0;RI 31*
ARG;0;RI 32*
ARG;0;RI 33*
ARG;1;RC Granaderos 'San Martín'
ARG;1;RC Ligera 3 'Pacheco'
ARG;1;RC de Montaña 4 'Lavalle'
ARG;1;RC Ligera 5 'Guemes'
ARG;1;RC 6 'Blandengues'
ARG;1;RC Ligera 13
ARG;1;RC Ligera 15 'Bolívar'
ARG;2;RI 1 'Patricios'
ARG;2;RI 3 'Belgrano'
ARG;2;RI 5
ARG;2;RI 9 'Pagola'
ARG;2;RI 17
ARG;2;RI 19
ARG;2;RI 20 'Cazadores de los Andes'
ARG;2;RI 15*
ARG;2;RI 18*
ARG;2;RI 23*
ARG;2;RI 27*
ARG;2;RI 30*
ARG;2;RI 32*
ARG;2;RI 34*
ARG;2;RI 36*
ARG;2;RI 38*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 4
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 6 'Viamonte'
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 7 'Conde'
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 8 'O'Higgins'
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 12 'Arenales'
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 24
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 25
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 31*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 33*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 35*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 37*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 39*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 40*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 41*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 42*
ARG;3;RI Mecanizada 43*
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 1 'Brandsen'
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 2 'Paz'
ARG;4;EE de Caballería de Tanques 3
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 7 'Estomba'
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 9
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 10 'Pueyrredón'
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 4*
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 5*
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 6*
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 8*
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 11*
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 12*
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 14*
ARG;4;RC de Tanques 15*
ARG;5;RI Aerotransportada 2
ARG;5;RI Aerotransportada 14
ARG;5;RI Aerotransportada 34*
ARG;5;RI Aerotransportada 44*
ARG;6;BIM 1
ARG;6;BIM 2
ARG;6;BIM 3
ARG;6;BIM 5
ARG;6;BIM 4*
ARG;6;BIM 6*
ARG;6;BIM 7*
ARG;6;BIM 8*
ARG;6;BIM 9*
ARG;7;RI de Montaña 10 'Racedo'
ARG;7;RI de Montaña 11 'Las Heras'
ARG;7;RI de Montaña 16
ARG;0;RI 20 'Cazadores de los Andes'
ARG;7;RI de Montaña 21
ARG;7;RI de Montaña 22
ARG;7;RI de Montaña 26
ARG;7;RI de Monte 28
ARG;7;RI de Monte 29 'Warnes'
ARG;7;RI de Monte 46*
ARG;7;RI de Monte 47*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 8 'Sierra'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 18 'Lomitas'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 16 'Clorinda'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 30 'Chos Malal'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 31 'Las Lajas'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 33 'Andes'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 34 'Bariloche'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 36 'Esquel'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 37 'San Martín'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 38 'Río Mayo'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 14 'Las Palmas'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 9 'Oberá'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 10 'El Dorado'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 11 'San Ignacio'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 15 'Formosa'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 20 'Orán'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 21 'La Quiaca'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 22 'San Antonio'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 32 'Aluminé'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 35 'El Bolsón'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 43 'Río Turbio'
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 44*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 45*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 46*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 47*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 48*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 49*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 50*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 51*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 52*
ARG;8;Escuadrón GN 53*
ARG;9;VI Brigada Aérea
ARG;9;VII Brigada Aérea
ARG;9;IX Brigada Aérea
ARG;9;X Brigada Aérea
ARG;9;III Brigada Aérea*
ARG;9;VIII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;9;XI Brigada Aérea*
ARG;9;XII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;10;II Brigada Aérea
ARG;10;III Brigada Aérea*
ARG;10;VIII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;10;XI Brigada Aérea*
ARG;10;XII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;11;IV Brigada Aérea
ARG;11;V Brigada Aérea
ARG;11;III Brigada Aérea*
ARG;11;VIII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;11;XI Brigada Aérea*
ARG;11;XII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;12;IV Brigada Aérea
ARG;12;V Brigada Aérea
ARG;12;III Brigada Aérea*
ARG;12;VIII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;12;XI Brigada Aérea*
ARG;12;XII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 1
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 2
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 3
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 4
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 5
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 6*
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 7*
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 8*
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 9*
ARG;13;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 10*
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 1
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 2
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 3
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 4
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 5
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 6*
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 7*
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 8*
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 9*
ARG;14;Escuadra Aeronaval Nro. 10*
ARG;15;L.A.D.E.
ARG;15;I Brigada Aérea
ARG;15;III Brigada Aérea*
ARG;15;VIII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;15;XI Brigada Aérea*
ARG;15;XII Brigada Aérea*
ARG;15;1a Esc. Aeronaval de SLM
ARG;15;2a Esc. Aeronaval de SLM
ARG;BB;ARA Rivadavia
ARG;BB;ARA Moreno
ARG;BB;ARA Azopardo*
ARG;BB;ARA Sarandí*
ARG;BB;ARA Espora*
ARG;CA;ARA La Argentina
ARG;CA;ARA Veinticinco de Mayo
ARG;CA;ARA Almirante Brown
ARG;CA;ARA General Belgrano
ARG;CA;ARA Nueve de Julio
ARG;CA;ARA Murature*
ARG;CA;ARA King*
ARG;CA;ARA Heroina*
ARG;CA;ARA Drummond*
ARG;CA;ARA Guerrico*
ARG;CA;ARA Granville*
ARG;CA;ARA Rosales*
ARG;CA;ARA Spiro*
ARG;CA;ARA Parker*
ARG;CA;ARA Rosales*
ARG;CA;ARA Robinson*
ARG;CA;ARA Gómez Roca*
ARG;CV;ARA Independencia
ARG;CV;ARA República*
ARG;20;Cervantes/Garay
ARG;20;Mendoza/Rioja/Tucumán
ARG;20;D6/D8/D10
ARG;20;D7/D9/D11
ARG;20;D20/D21/D22
ARG;20;D23/D24
ARG;20;D25/D27
ARG;20;D26/D29
ARG;20;D1/D2
ARG;20;D11/D12/D13
ARG;20;D3/D4/D5*
ARG;20;D14/D15/D16*
ARG;20;D17/D18/D19*
ARG;20;D23/D24/D25*
ARG;20;D26/D27/D28*
ARG;20;D29/D30/D31*
ARG;20;D32/D33/D34*
ARG;20;D35/D36/D37*
ARG;20;D38/D39/D40*
ARG;20;D41/D42/D43*
ARG;20;D44/D45/D46*
ARG;22;S.Fe/Salta/S.del Estero
ARG;22;S.Luis/S.Cruz/S.Juan
ARG;22;Neuquén/R.Negro/Chubut*
ARG;22;T.del Fuego/Chaco/Formosa*
ARG;22;Catamarca/E.Ríos/Corrientes*
ARG;22;La Pampa/Jujuy/Misiones*
ARG;22;Córdoba/Malvinas/Orcadas*
ARG;22;Georgias/Sandwich/Antártida*
ARG;22;S1/S2/S3*
ARG;22;S4/S5/S6*
ARG;22;S7/S8/S9*
ARG;22;S10/S11/S12*
ARG;22;S14/S15/S16*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Diego*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo S.F. de Paula*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo Buen Tiempo*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Pablo*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Sebastián*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Vicente*
ARG;23;ARA Cándido de Lasala*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Antonio*
ARG;23;ARA Ministro Ezcurra*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Alta*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Ninfas*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Loyola*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Delgada*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Médanos*
ARG;23;ARA Ingeniero Krausse*
ARG;23;ARA Patagonia*

See you.

Procer · May 23, 2003

The more historically correct list, for the sake of historicity (instead of fun) is this one. Also it is more accurate regarding unit sizes.

I have posted more comments about this list in the unitnames.csv mod thread.

The list:

ARG;0;III Brigada 'Pellegrini'
ARG;0;XIII Brigada*
ARG;0;XIV Brigada*
ARG;0;XV Brigada*
ARG;0;XV Brigada*
ARG;0;XVI Brigada*
ARG;0;XVII Brigada*
ARG;1;XIII Brigada*
ARG;1;XIV Brigada*
ARG;1;XV Brigada*
ARG;1;XVI Brigada*
ARG;1;XVII Brigada*
ARG;2;V Brigada Motorizada 'Belgrano'
ARG;2;XIII Brigada*
ARG;2;XIV Brigada*
ARG;2;XV Brigada*
ARG;2;XVI Brigada*
ARG;2;XVII Brigada*
ARG;3;IX Brigada Mecanizada 'Fontana'
ARG;3;X Brigada Mecanizada 'Lavalle'
ARG;3;XI Brigada Mecanizada
ARG;3;XIII Brigada*
ARG;3;XIV Brigada*
ARG;3;XV Brigada*
ARG;3;XVI Brigada*
ARG;3;XVII Brigada*
ARG;4;I Brigada Blindada 'Rodríguez'
ARG;4;II Brigada Blindada 'Urquiza'
ARG;4;XIII Brigada*
ARG;4;XIV Brigada*
ARG;4;XV Brigada*
ARG;4;XVI Brigada*
ARG;4;XVII Brigada*
ARG;5;IV Brigada Paracaidista
ARG;5;XIII Brigada*
ARG;5;XIV Brigada*
ARG;5;XV Brigada*
ARG;5;XVI Brigada*
ARG;5;XVII Brigada*
ARG;6;Fuerza de Inf. de Marina Nro. 1
ARG;6;Fuerza de Inf. de Marina Nro. 2*
ARG;6;Fuerza de Inf. de Marina Nro. 3*
ARG;6;Fuerza de Inf. de Marina Nro. 4*
ARG;6;Fuerza de Inf. de Marina Nro. 5*
ARG;6;Fuerza de Inf. de Marina Nro. 6*
ARG;6;Fuerza de Inf. de Marina Nro. 7*
ARG;7;VI Brigada de Montaña 'Villegas'
ARG;7;VIII Brigada de Montaña 'Luzuriaga'
ARG;7;XII Brigada de Monte
ARG;7;XIII Brigada*
ARG;7;XIV Brigada*
ARG;7;XV Brigada*
ARG;7;XVI Brigada*
ARG;7;XVII Brigada*
ARG;8;Agrupación IV GN 'Misiones'
ARG;8;Agrupación VI GN 'Formosa'
ARG;8;Agrupación XII GN 'Neuquén'
ARG;8;Agrupación XIV GN 'Chubut'
ARG;8;Agrupación XI GN 'Mendoza'
ARG;8;Agrupación XVI GN 'Santa Cruz'
ARG;8;Agrupación XVII GN 'Río Negro'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XVIII GN 'Catamarca'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XIX GN 'Jujuy'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XX GN 'Salta'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXI GN 'Entre Ríos'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXII GN 'Corrientes'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXIII GN 'La Rioja'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXIV GN 'San Juan'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXV GN 'T. del Fuego'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXVI GN 'Córdoba'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXVII GN 'Tucumán'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXVIII GN 'San Luis'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXIX GN 'Chaco'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXX GN 'S. del Estero'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXXI GN 'Santa Fe'*
ARG;8;Agrupación XXXII GN 'Buenos Aires'*
ARG;9;División Aérea Nro. 1
ARG;9;División Aérea Nro. 2*
ARG;9;División Aérea Nro. 3*
ARG;9;División Aérea Nro. 4*
ARG;10;División Aérea Nro. 1
ARG;10;División Aérea Nro. 2*
ARG;10;División Aérea Nro. 3*
ARG;10;División Aérea Nro. 4*
ARG;11;División Aérea Nro. 1
ARG;11;División Aérea Nro. 2*
ARG;11;División Aérea Nro. 3*
ARG;11;División Aérea Nro. 4*
ARG;12;División Aérea Nro. 1
ARG;12;División Aérea Nro. 2*
ARG;12;División Aérea Nro. 3*
ARG;12;División Aérea Nro. 4*
ARG;13;Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 1
ARG;13;Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 2
ARG;13;Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 3*
ARG;13;Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 4*
ARG;14;Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 1
ARG;14;Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 2
ARG;14;Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 3*
ARG;14;Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 4*
ARG;15;L.A.S.O.
ARG;15;L.A.D.E.
ARG;15;División Aérea Nro. 1
ARG;15;Fuerza Aeronaval de SLM*
ARG;15;División Aérea Nro. 2*
ARG;15;División Aérea Nro. 3*
ARG;15;División Aérea Nro. 4*
ARG;BB;ARA Rivadavia
ARG;BB;ARA Moreno
ARG;BB;ARA Azopardo*
ARG;BB;ARA Sarandí*
ARG;BB;ARA Espora*
ARG;CA;ARA La Argentina
ARG;CA;ARA Veinticinco de Mayo
ARG;CA;ARA Almirante Brown
ARG;CA;ARA General Belgrano
ARG;CA;ARA Nueve de Julio
ARG;CA;ARA Murature*
ARG;CA;ARA King*
ARG;CA;ARA Heroina*
ARG;CA;ARA Drummond*
ARG;CA;ARA Guerrico*
ARG;CA;ARA Granville*
ARG;CA;ARA Rosales*
ARG;CA;ARA Spiro*
ARG;CA;ARA Parker*
ARG;CA;ARA Rosales*
ARG;CA;ARA Robinson*
ARG;CA;ARA Gómez Roca*
ARG;CV;ARA Independencia
ARG;CV;ARA República*
ARG;20;Cervantes/Garay
ARG;20;Mendoza/Rioja/Tucumán
ARG;20;D6/D8/D10
ARG;20;D7/D9/D11
ARG;20;D20/D21/D22
ARG;20;D23/D24
ARG;20;D25/D27
ARG;20;D26/D29
ARG;20;D1/D2
ARG;20;D11/D12/D13
ARG;20;D3/D4/D5*
ARG;20;D14/D15/D16*
ARG;20;D17/D18/D19*
ARG;20;D23/D24/D25*
ARG;20;D26/D27/D28*
ARG;20;D29/D30/D31*
ARG;20;D32/D33/D34*
ARG;20;D35/D36/D37*
ARG;20;D38/D39/D40*
ARG;20;D41/D42/D43*
ARG;20;D44/D45/D46*
ARG;22;S.Fe/Salta/S.del Estero
ARG;22;S.Luis/S.Cruz/S.Juan
ARG;22;Neuquén/R.Negro/Chubut*
ARG;22;T.del Fuego/Chaco/Formosa*
ARG;22;Catamarca/E.Ríos/Corrientes*
ARG;22;La Pampa/Jujuy/Misiones*
ARG;22;Córdoba/Malvinas/Orcadas*
ARG;22;Georgias/Sandwich/Antártida*
ARG;22;S1/S2/S3*
ARG;22;S4/S5/S6*
ARG;22;S7/S8/S9*
ARG;22;S10/S11/S12*
ARG;22;S14/S15/S16*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Diego*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo S.F. de Paula*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo Buen Tiempo*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Pablo*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Sebastián*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Vicente*
ARG;23;ARA Cándido de Lasala*
ARG;23;ARA Cabo San Antonio*
ARG;23;ARA Ministro Ezcurra*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Alta*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Ninfas*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Loyola*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Delgada*
ARG;23;ARA Punta Médanos*
ARG;23;ARA Ingeniero Krausse*
ARG;23;ARA Patagonia*

Later.

Generalisimo · May 23, 2003

which of the 2 lists we must use?
or both merged?

Procer · May 23, 2003

No. Not merged, because the last list already includes all those regiments (inside the brigrades). The air force also is more accurate in the last list, because in fact there was only 1 air division in 1936. The air brigades, as seen on the 1st list, came much more later and were taken from the current ones. I also added the LASO (Lineas Areas del Sudoeste) which was created by the army months before than LADE (Lineas Aereas del Estado), both using german pre-war transport planes. So the last list is best, imho.

I say we should use the last list. The previous one has some appeal because of the quantity and fancy nicknames.

But the last one is more realistic, especially regarding the size of the units.

I will soon prepare an OOB for 1936, 1939, and 1941, if possible.

Thanks Generalisimo for your time

Generalisimo · May 23, 2003

Originally posted by Procer
No. Not merged, because the last list already includes all those regiments (inside the brigrades). The air force also is more accurate in the last list, because in fact there was only 1 air division in 1936. The air brigades, as seen on the 1st list, came much more later and were taken from the current ones. I also added the LASO (Lineas Areas del Sudoeste) which was created by the army months before than LADE (Lineas Aereas del Estado), both using german pre-war transport planes. So the last list is best, imho.

I say we should use the last list. The previous one has some appeal because of the quantity and fancy nicknames. But the last one is more realistic, especially regarding the size of the units.

I will soon prepare an OOB for 1936, 1939, and 1941, if possible.

Thanks Generalisimo for your time

ok, thanks for the response.

Halibutt · May 26, 2003

Originally posted by Generalisimo
(...)it says that Argentina was the fifth country to introduce paratroopers in their army after SU, GER, UK and US...(...)

This source is wrong. September the 1st, 1939 was the first (and the last as well...) day of classes at polish airborne forces military school that has just been opened. But this is slightly OT, I know...
Cheers

Generalisimo · May 26, 2003

Originally posted by Halibutt
This source is wrong. September the 1st, 1939 was the first (and the last as well...) day of classes at polish airborne forces military school that has just been opened. But this is slightly OT, I know...
Cheers

well, you like it more this way:

"(...)it says that Argentina was the fifth country to introduce paratroopers in their army for more than one day after SU, GER, UK and US...(...)"

Procer · May 28, 2003

Originally posted by Halibutt
This source is wrong. September the 1st, 1939 was the first (and the last as well...) day of classes at polish airborne forces military school that has just been opened. But this is slightly OT, I know...
Cheers

Then i guess that source missed that fact. Of course, the Polish paratroopers may have been the 5th ones to have jumped into a combat zone.

Thx for the correction. It means that if Germany does not invade Poland (by that time), then Poland should had an airborne unit ready for combat by mid 1940.

Halibutt · May 28, 2003

Originally posted by Procer
Then i guess that source missed that fact. Of course, the Polish paratroopers may have been the 5th ones to have jumped into a combat zone.

Thx for the correction. It means that if Germany does not invade Poland (by that time), then Poland should had an airborne unit ready for combat by mid 1940.

Sarcasm noted. Well, the plan was to train the officers core until 1940, and the soldiers until 1941.
Cheers

unmerged(14683) · May 28, 2003

Originally posted by Halibutt
Sarcasm noted. Well, the plan was to train the officers core until 1940, and the soldiers until 1941.
Cheers

Bit of topic, but in current alpha of the techmod paras are much easier to activate (and much harder to build, same with fllets of transport planes).

Procer · May 29, 2003

Originally posted by Halibutt
Sarcasm noted. Well, the plan was to train the officers core until 1940, and the soldiers until 1941.
Cheers

No. No sarcasm here. I mean, what you said could be a good topic for a tech event where Poland gets some tech related to airborne units if the conditions are met by 1940 or 1941 (e.g. Germany is not at war with Poland and Poland controls Poland). This could lead players to research the other related techs so they can be able to use paras sooner than they would do it without such event.

It was just an idea... but for another thread. I went OT

Sorry.

Procer · Jun 3, 2003

Generalisimo:

I am currently making changes to Argentina's 1.04 files, just in case there's interest in this.

The changes are ---->

In the unitnames.csv:
- already posted about the changes done to ARG.

In the province.csv:
- changed the terrain to really reflect the geography.
- changed the IC of most provinces (there were additions and substractions)
- changed the infrastructure of most provinces (again... there were additions and substractions)
- changed the man power of a few provinces (idem)
- i still have to find out about resources (e.g. 1 more oil in Comodoro Rivadavia or 1 in Junin de los Andes?, Coal in Lago Posadas)

In the argentina and arg files of the scenario folders:
- changed the OOB to reflect the chnages in the unitnames.csv file and to use a more realistic OOB (e.g. there were already 2 Mountain Brigades in 1936 afaik).

In the argentina file of the ai folder:
- tweaked a little bit the unit construction priorities but without altering the overall totals (e.g. added 1 here, deleted 1 from there, etc.). Research priorities were not modified (and probably will not be modified).

I will test the modifications first and then send to you the modifications in case you want to give it a try or include the changes in CORE.

Notice that Birch, who's working with the leaders names for 1.05, has already a big enough list of leaders and pictures for Argentina.

Later.

unmerged(8606) · Jun 4, 2003

I've just compiled a new minister and leader lists for Ecuador (well, the leaderlist adds only one to the original, but anyway...):

ministers_ecu.csv:

Code:

[color=white]40001;Head of State;Federico Páez;NA;CE RS LC;NA;NA;federico_paez;x
40002;Head of Government;Federico Páez;NA;RS;NA;NA;federico_paez;x
40003;Foreign Minister;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40004;Minister of Armament;Alberto Enrique Gallo;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Low;enrique_gallo;x
40005;Minister of Security;Alberto Enrique Gallo;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Low;enrique_gallo;x
40006;Head of Military Intelligence;Alberto Enrique Gallo;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;enrique_gallo;x
40007;Chief of Staff;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40008;Chief of Army;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40009;Chief of Navy;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40010;Chief of Air Force;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;A Cabinet - 1937;ELECT_A;;;;;;x
40011;Head of State;Alberto Enrique Gallo;NA;CE RS LC;NA;NA;enrique_gallo;x
40012;Head of Government;Alberto Enrique Gallo;NA;RS;NA;NA;enrique_gallo;x
40013;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40014;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40015;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;B Cabinet - 1937;ELECT_B;;;;;;x
40016;Head of State;Blue Shadow;NA;PA LC CE RS;NA;NA;unknown;x
40017;Head of Government;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
40018;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40019;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40020;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;A Cabinet - 1940;ELECT_A;;;;;;x
40021;Head of State;Carlos Arroyo del Río;NA;CE RS LC;NA;NA;arroyo_del_rio;x
40022;Head of Government;Carlos Arroyo del Río;NA;RS;NA;NA;arroyo_del_rio;x
40023;Foreign Minister;Julio Tobar;NA;RS;Great Compromiser;High;unknown;x
40024;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40025;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;B Cabinet - 1940;ELECT_B;;;;;;x
40026;Head of State;José María Velasco Ibarra;NA;PA LC CE;NA;NA;velasco_ibarra;x
40027;Head of Government;José María Velasco Ibarra;NA;LC;NA;NA;velasco_ibarra;x
40028;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40029;Minister of Armament;Carlos Mancheno;NA;CE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;carlos_mancheno;x
40030;Minister of Security;Carlos Mancheno;NA;CE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;carlos_mancheno;x
;A Cabinet - 1944;ELECT_A;;;;;;x
40031;Head of State;José María Velasco Ibarra;NA;PA LC CE;NA;NA;velasco_ibarra;x
40032;Head of Government;José María Velasco Ibarra;NA;LC;NA;NA;velasco_ibarra;x
40033;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40034;Minister of Armament;Carlos Mancheno;NA;CE;Undistinguished Suit;Low;carlos_mancheno;x
40035;Minister of Security;Carlos Mancheno;NA;CE;Undistinguished Suit;Low;carlos_mancheno;x
40061;Chief of Staff;Carlos Mancheno;NA;CE;Undistinguished Suit;Low;carlos_mancheno;x
;B Cabinet - 1944;ELECT_B;;;;;;x
40036;Head of State;Blue Shadow;NA;PA LC CE RS ;NA;NA;unknown;x
40037;Head of Government;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
40038;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40039;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40040;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Fascist Cabinet;;;;;;;x
40041;Head of State;Black Shadow;NA;FA PA LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
40042;Head of Government;Black Shadow;NA;FA;NA;NA;unknown;x
40043;Foreign Minister;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40044;Minister of Armament;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40045;Minister of Security;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40046;Head of Military Intelligence;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40047;Chief of Staff;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40048;Chief of Army;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40049;Chief of Navy;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40050;Chief of Air Force;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Communist Cabinet;;;;;;;x
40051;Head of State;Red Shadow;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
40052;Head of Government;Red Shadow;NA;LE;NA;NA;unknown;x
40053;Foreign Minister;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40054;Minister of Armament;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40055;Minister of Security;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40056;Head of Military Intelligence;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40057;Chief of Staff;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40058;Chief of Army;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40059;Chief of Navy;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
40060;Chief of Air Force;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x[/color]

ecu.csv:

Code:

[color=white]C. Mancheno Cajas;200001;ECU;3;4;1;0;3;0;mancheno_carlos_ecu;x
A. Enrique Gallo;200002;ECU;1;2;2;5;2;0;enrique_gallo;x[/color]

I'll try to find more ministers, leaders and pictures. And if I have some time I'll also try to script some events for Ecuador (specially the war with Perú) and ministers and leaders for Perú.

unmerged(8606) · Jun 4, 2003

And the corresponding pictures:

Federico Páez

Alberto Enrique Gallo

Carlos Arroyo del Río

José María Velasco Ibarra

Carlos Mancheno

Steel · Jun 4, 2003

Thank you

Looking forward to seeing those events, South America is a bit too quiet in the game for my taste

unmerged(8606) · Jun 4, 2003

And the same for Perú:

Code:

[color=white]39001;Head of State;Oscar R. Benavides;NA;PA LC CE RS;NA;NA;oscar_benavides;x
39002;Head of Government;Oscar R. Benavides;NA;CE;NA;NA;oscar_benavides;x
39003;Foreign Minister;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39004;Minister of Armament;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39005;Minister of Security;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39006;Head of Military Intelligence;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39007;Chief of Staff;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39008;Chief of Army;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39009;Chief of Navy;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39010;Chief of Air Force;Unknown;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;A Cabinet - 1939;ELECT_A;;;;;;x
39011;Head of State;Manuel Prado Ugarteche;NA;PA LC CE;NA;NA;prado_ugarteche;x
39012;Head of Government;Manuel Prado Ugarteche;LC;RS;NA;NA;prado_ugarteche;x
39013;Foreign Minister;Alfredo Solf y Muro;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;High;unknown;x
39014;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39015;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;B Cabinet - 1939;ELECT_B;;;;;;x
39016;Head of State;José Quezada;NA;CE RS LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
39017;Head of Government;José Quezada;NA;CE;NA;NA;unknown;x
39018;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39019;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39020;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;A Cabinet - 1945;ELECT_A;;;;;;x
39021;Head of State;José Luis Bustamante Rivero;NA;LC CE RS;NA;NA;bustamante_rivero;x
39022;Head of Government;José Luis Bustamante Rivero;NA;CE;NA;NA;bustamante_rivero;x
39023;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;CE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39024;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39025;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;B Cabinet - 1945;ELECT_B;;;;;;x
39026;Head of State;Eloy G. Ureta;NA;PA LC CE;NA;NA;unknown;x
39027;Head of Government;Eloy G. Ureta;NA;LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
39028;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39029;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39030;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;A Cabinet - 1948;ELECT_A;;;;;;x
39031;Head of State;Blue Shadow;NA;PA LC CE RS LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
39032;Head of Government;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;NA;NA;unknown;x
39033;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39034;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39035;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;RS;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;B Cabinet - 1948;ELECT_B;;;;;;x
39036;Head of State;Blue Shadow;NA;PA LC CE RS ;NA;NA;unknown;x
39037;Head of Government;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
39038;Foreign Minister;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39039;Minister of Armament;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39040;Minister of Security;Blue Shadow;NA;LC;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Fascist Cabinet;;;;;;;x
39041;Head of State;Black Shadow;NA;FA PA LC;NA;NA;unknown;x
39042;Head of Government;Black Shadow;NA;FA;NA;NA;unknown;x
39043;Foreign Minister;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39044;Minister of Armament;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39045;Minister of Security;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39046;Head of Military Intelligence;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39047;Chief of Staff;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39048;Chief of Army;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39049;Chief of Navy;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39050;Chief of Air Force;Black Shadow;NA;FA;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;Shadow Communist Cabinet;;;;;;;x
39051;Head of State;Red Shadow;NA;ST LE LWR;NA;NA;unknown;x
39052;Head of Government;Red Shadow;NA;LE;NA;NA;unknown;x
39053;Foreign Minister;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39054;Minister of Armament;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39055;Minister of Security;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39056;Head of Military Intelligence;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39057;Chief of Staff;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39058;Chief of Army;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39059;Chief of Navy;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
39060;Chief of Air Force;Red Shadow;NA;LE;Undistinguished Suit;Medium;unknown;x
;Replacements;;;;;;;x[/color]

And the corresponding pictures:

Oscar Benavides

Manuel Prado Ugarteche

José Luis Bustamante Rivero

Hope it helps!

unmerged(17482) · Jun 7, 2003

I don't know if anyone has said this already but, In 1942 Peru and Ecuador engaged in a boarder war in which Peru toke 55% of ecuador. In game it amounts to the provence of Iquitos. I don't know the exact date but will look it up if need be.

unmerged(17482) · Jun 7, 2003

CAUSES OF CONFLICT:

The territorial dispute between Ecuador and Peru originated in Spanish Colonial times. Upon independence, Ecuador joined what is now known as"Great Colombia", comprised of the territories of Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia and Panama (then a part of Colombia). In 1829, the Treaty of Peace and Limits of Guayaquil was signed. Subsequently, in 1830, Pedemonte-Mosquera Protocol was signed. They established the Marañon-Amazon River as the border between Peru and Ecuador; however, Peru has contested these agreements. Between 1936 and 1938, representatives from Ecuador and Peru attempted to negotiate a treaty in Washington, D.C., consequently, the Peruvians withdrew from the negotiations. A series of border clashes were fought in the years between 1938 and 1940. Peru decided to settle the matter by force after a border clash in July 1941.

DESCRIPTION OF CONFLICT:

Ecuador was unprepared to meet the July 5 Peruvian invasion. The much larger Peruvian army of 13,000 men, supported by a battalion of armor, together with artillery and air support (known as Group of the North or agrupamiento del Norte commanded by General Eloy G. Ureta), moved quickly into the southern coastal province of El Oro, threatening Guayaquil. The fewer than 1,800 Ecuadorian troops in the area lacked air cover and could offer only limited resistance. The Ecuadorian president's fear of being left unprotected from his political opponents led him to keep the nation's best fighting forces in Quito. Peruvian forces also moved into the disputed Amazonian territory without significant opposition. Peruvian troops continuously attacked the nation's southern and eastern provinces until a ceasefire went into effect on July 31. After a campaign lasting only three weeks, an armistice was arranged.
The 1941 war with Ecuador was a major success for Peruvian forces. By theend of the month, when military actions ceased, Peru held Ecuador's southernmost province of El Oro and much of the disputed eastern jungle territory that had been part of Ecuador since the 1830s.

CONSEQUENCES OF CONFLICT:

The Rio Protocol of February 1942 awarded to Peru some 205,000 square kilometers of previously disputed Amazon territory. The subsequent Protocol of Peace, Friendship, and Boundaries (Rio Protocol) imposed on Ecuador acceptance of Peru's claims in the Amazonian region in return for Peruvian withdrawal from Ecuador's coastal provinces.

unmerged(8606) · Jun 7, 2003

Originally posted by davidb202
I don't know if anyone has said this already but, In 1942 Peru and Ecuador engaged in a boarder war

Yes

I said that I was planning some events to simulate that.

OTO, I've nearly completed the work on ministers and leaders for Perú, Ecuador and Colombia (with some more pictures!). I'll post an update soon...

Generalisimo · Jun 9, 2003

Thanks for the info.
I will include all that...

Well, we will have to control that Peru doesn't not annex Ecuador...

C.O.R.E HOI - South America

Major

Major

Field Marshal

Major

Field Marshal

Marshal of Poland

Field Marshal

Major

Marshal of Poland

HoI2 Shtrafnik

Major

Major

Civis Barcinonensis

Civis Barcinonensis

Field Marshal

Civis Barcinonensis

Private

Private

Civis Barcinonensis

Field Marshal