C.O.R.E HOI - South America

[Procer]

The OOB for 1936 without the lines related to tech and stuff (Just the OOB). You should check IDs since this wasn't originally meant for CORE. Also, gotta check the last bracket... maybe it closes one belonging to the lines i have removed.


landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 1 }
name = "I Cuerpo"
location = 384 # Buenos Aires

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 100 }
name = "1a Div. de Infantería'Pellegrini'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = artillery
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 101 }
name = "2a Div. de Infantería 'Belgrano'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = artillery
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 102 }
name = "3a Div. de Infantería 'Fontana'"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = antiair
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 103 }
name = "1a Div. Blindada 'Rodríguez'*"
strength = 65
type = panzer
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 2 }
name = "II Cuerpo"
location = 374

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 200 }
name = "1a Div. de Inf. de Montaña 'Villegas'*"
strength = 65
type = bergsjaeger
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 201 }
name = "4a Div. de Infantería 'Lavalle'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = engineer
}

}

airunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 10 }
name = "Aviación del Ejército"
location = 384

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 1000 }
name = "Div. Aérea Nro. 1"
strength = 50
type = fighter
model = 0
}
}

airunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 12 }
name = "Aviación Naval"
location = 385

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 1002 }
name = "Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 1"
strength = 50
type = naval_bomber
model = 0
}
}

# CAs commissioned in 1931, based on the Italian "Trento" class:
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Veinticinco De Mayo"
id = { type = 30050 id = 1 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 100 } name = "ARA Veinticinco De Mayo" type = cruiser model = 0 } # CA
}
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Almirante Brown"
id = { type = 30050 id = 2 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 200 } name = "ARA Almirante Brown" type = cruiser model = 0 } # CA
}

# BB Dreadnaughts commissioned in 1914 and 1915:
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Moreno"
id = { type = 30050 id = 3 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 300 } name = "ARA Moreno" type = battleship model = 0 } # BB
}
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Rivadavia"
id = { type = 30050 id = 4 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 400 } name = "ARA Rivadavia" type = battleship model = 0 } # BB
}

# Destroyer Division pre-1930 (2 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 1"
id = { type = 30050 id = 6 }
location = 384 # Buenos Aires
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 600 } name = "Cervantes/Garay" type = destroyer model = 0 } # DD
}

# Destroyer Division pre-1930 (3 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 2"
id = { type = 30050 id = 7 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 700 } name = "Mendoza/Rioja/Tucumán" type = destroyer model = 0 } # DD
}

# Submarine Division, pre-1936? (3 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Submarinos Nro. 1"
id = { type = 30050 id = 10 }
location = 385 # Mar del Plata
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 1000 } name = "S.Fe/Salta/S.del Estero" type = submarine model = 0 } # Sub
}

}

 

[Procer]

1939 file (just OOB lines)


landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 1 }
name = "I Cuerpo"
location = 384 # Buenos Aires

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 100 }
name = "1a Div. de Infantería 'Pellegrini'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = artillery
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 101 }
name = "2a Div. de Infantería 'Belgrano'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = artillery
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 102 }
name = "3a Div. de Infantería 'Fontana'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = antiair
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 103 }
name = "1a Div. Blindada 'Rodríguez'*"
strength = 100
type = panzer
model = 1
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 2 }
name = "2nd Corps"
location = 374

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 200 }
name = "1a Div. de Inf. de Montaña 'Villegas'*"
strength = 100
type = bergsjaeger
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 201 }
name = "2a Div. de Inf. de Montaña 'Luzuriaga'*"
strength = 50
type = bergsjaeger
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 3 }
name = "Gendarmería Nacional"
location = 369

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 300 }
name = "Agrupación IV GN 'Misiones'*"
strength = 100
type = militia
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 301 }
name = "Agrupación VI GN 'Formosa'*"
strength = 100
type = militia
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 4 }
name = "3rd Corps"
location = 374

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 400 }
name = "4a Div. de Infantería 'Lavalle'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = engineer
}
}

airunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 10 }
name = "Aviación del Ejército"
location = 384

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 1000 }
name = "Div. Aérea Nro. 1"
strength = 50
type = fighter
model = 0
}
}

airunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 12 }
name = "Aviación Naval"
location = 385

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 1002 }
name = "Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 1"
strength = 50
type = naval_bomber
model = 0
}
}

# CAs commissioned in 1931, based on the Italian "Trento" class:
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Veinticinco De Mayo"
id = { type = 30050 id = 1 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 100 } name = "ARA Veinticinco De Mayo" type = cruiser model = 1 } # CA
}
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Almirante Brown"
id = { type = 30050 id = 2 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 200 } name = "ARA Almirante Brown" type = cruiser model = 1 } # CA
}

# BB Dreadnaughts commissioned in 1914 and 1915:
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Moreno"
id = { type = 30050 id = 3 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 300 } name = "ARA Moreno" type = battleship model = 0 } # BB
}
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Rivadavia"
id = { type = 30050 id = 4 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 400 } name = "ARA Rivadavia" type = battleship model = 0 } # BB
}

# Light Cruiser commissioned Jan 31, 1939: (should be under construction from Jan 1936)
navalunit = {
name = "ARA La Argentina"
id = { type = 30050 id = 5 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 500 } name = "ARA La Argentina" type = cruiser model = 1 seadefence = 4 seaattack = 4 } # CL
}

# Destroyer Division pre-1930 (2 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 1"
id = { type = 30050 id = 6 }
location = 384 # Buenos Aires
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 600 } name = "Cervantes/Garay" type = destroyer model = 0 } # DD
}

#Transport Division (5 ships?):
navalunit = {
name = "Marina Mercante"
id = { type = 30050 id = 11 }
location = 384 # Buenos Aires
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 1100 } name = "ARA Cabo San Diego*" type = transport model = 0 }
}

# Destroyer Division pre-1930 (3 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 2"
id = { type = 30050 id = 7 }
location = 384 # Buenos Aires
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 700 } name = "Mendoza/Rioja/Tucumán" type = destroyer model = 0 } # DD
}

# Destroyer Division (3 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 3"
id = { type = 30050 id = 8 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 800 } name = "D6/D8/D10" type = destroyer model = 1 } # DD
}

# Destroyer Division (3 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 4"
id = { type = 30050 id = 9 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 900 } name = "D7/D9/D11" type = destroyer model = 1 } # DD
}

# Submarine Division, pre-1936? (3 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Submarinos Nro. 1"
id = { type = 30050 id = 10 }
location = 385 # Mar del Plata
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 1000 } name = "S.Fe/Salta/S.del Estero" type = submarine model = 0 } # Sub
}

}

 

[Procer]

1941 (just OOB lines)


landunit = {
id = { type = 10384 id = 1 }
name = "1st Corps"
location = 384 # Buenos Aires

division = {
id = { type = 10384 id = 41 }
name = "1a Div. de Infantería 'Pellegrini'*"
strength = 100
type = motorized
extra = artillery
}
division = {
id = { type = 10384 id = 2 }
name = "2a Div. de Infantería 'Belgrano'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = artillery
}
division = {
id = { type = 10384 id = 3 }
name = "3a Div. de Infantería 'Fontana'*"
strength = 100
type = infantry
extra = antiair
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 103 }
name = "1a Div. Blindada 'Rodríguez'*"
strength = 100
type = panzer
model = 1
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 10384 id = 7 }
name = "2nd Corps"
location = 374

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 8 }
name = "1a Div. de Inf. de Montaña 'Villegas'*"
strength = 100
type = bergsjaeger
extra = artillery
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 4 }
name = "2a Div. de Inf. de Montaña 'Luzuriaga'*"
strength = 100
type = bergsjaeger
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 3 }
name = "GN Litoral"
location = 369

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 5 }
name = "Agrupación IV GN 'Misiones'*"
strength = 100
type = militia
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 6 }
name = "Agrupación VI GN 'Formosa'*"
strength = 100
type = militia
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 40 }
name = "3rd Corps"
location = 374

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 400 }
name = "4a Div. de Infantería 'Lavalle'*"
strength = 100
type = motorized
extra = engineer
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 7 }
name = "GN Patagonia"
location = 396

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 30 }
name = "Agrupación XII GN 'Neuquén'"
strength = 100
type = militia
}
division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 31 }
name = "Agrupación XIV GN 'Chubut'"
strength = 100
type = militia
}
}

landunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 62 }
name = "Infantería de Marina"
location = 386

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 400 }
name = "Fuerza de Inf. de Marina Nro. 1 'Lagartos'*"
strength = 30
type = marine
}
}

airunit = {
id = { type = 10384 id = 9 }
name = "Aviación del Ejército"
location = 384

division = {
id = { type = 10384 id = 10 }
name = "Div. Aérea Nro. 1"
strength = 100
type = fighter
}
}

airunit = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 12 }
name = "Aviación Naval"
location = 385

division = {
id = { type = 30051 id = 1002 }
name = "Fuerza Aeronaval Nro. 1"
strength = 50
type = naval_bomber
model = 0
}
}

# CAs commissioned in 1931, based on the Italian "Trento" class:
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Veinticinco De Mayo"
id = { type = 10384 id = 11 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 12 } name = "ARA Veinticinco De Mayo" type = cruiser model = 1 } # CA
}
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Almirante Brown"
id = { type = 10384 id = 13 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 14 } name = "ARA Almirante Brown" type = cruiser model = 1 } # CA
}

# BB Dreadnaughts commissioned in 1914 and 1915:
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Moreno"
id = { type = 10384 id = 15 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 16 } name = "ARA Moreno" type = battleship } # BB
}
navalunit = {
name = "ARA Rivadavia"
id = { type = 10384 id = 17 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 18 } name = "ARA Rivadavia" type = battleship } # BB
}

# Light Cruiser commissioned Jan 31, 1939: (should be under construction from Jan 1936)
navalunit = {
name = "ARA La Argentina"
id = { type = 10384 id = 19 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 20 } name = "ARA La Argentina" type = cruiser seadefence = 4 seaattack = 4 model = 1 } # CL
}

# Destroyer Division pre-1930 (4 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 1"
id = { type = 10384 id = 21 }
location = 384 # Buenos Aires
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 22 } name = "Cervantes/Garay" type = destroyer } # DD
}

# Destroyer Division pre-1930 (4 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 2"
id = { type = 10384 id = 23 }
location = 384 # Buenos Aires
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 24 } name = "Mendoza/Rioja/Tucumán" type = destroyer } # DD
}

#Transport Division (5 ships?):
navalunit = {
name = "Marina Mercante"
id = { type = 30050 id = 11 }
location = 384 # Buenos Aires
division = { id = { type = 30050 id = 1100 } name = "ARA Cabo San Diego*" type = transport model = 0 }
}

# Destroyer Division "Buenos Aires" Class, 1937-38 (4 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 3"
id = { type = 10384 id = 25 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 26 } name = "D6/D8/D10" type = destroyer model = 1 } # DD
}
# Destroyer Division "Buenos Aires" Class, 1937-38 (3 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Destructores Nro. 4"
id = { type = 10384 id = 27 }
location = 386 # Bahía Blanca
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 28 } name = "D7/D9/D11" type = destroyer model = 1 } # DD
}
# Submarine Division, pre-1936? (3 ships):
navalunit = {
name = "Fuerza de Submarinos Nro. 1"
id = { type = 10384 id = 29 }
location = 385 # Mar del Plata
division = { id = { type = 10384 id = 30 } name = "S.Fe/Salta/S.del Estero" type = submarine } # Sub
}
}

 

[Procer]

And here are the terrain and economic modifications i thought for Argentina in the province.csv. Is this format for CORE's provinces.inc ok? What's not listed is what's already as it should be in the porvince.csv.


#Argentina
province = { id = 365 Infrastructure = 40 IC = 4 Manpower = 3} #Resistencia
province = { id = 369 Infrastructure = 35 Terrain = marsh IC = 2 Manpower = 1 Rubber = 5} #Corrientes
province = { id = 370 IC = 10 Manpower = 4} #Santa Fe
province = { id = 373 Climate = Mediterranean Infrastructure = 35 Manpower 2} #San Miguel de Tucuman
province = { id = 374 Terrain = hills inafrastructure = 60 IC = 12} #Cordoba (add enough Victory Points for red star in the VP file)
province = { id = 380 Infrastructure = 40 IC = 2 Manpower = 1} #Mendoza (add enough Victory Points for red star in the VP file ???)
province = { id = 383 IC = 0} #General Roca
province = { id = 384 } #Buenos Aires No changes
province = { id = 385 Infrastructure = 60} #Mar del Plata
province = { id = 386 Infrastructure = 60} #Bahia Blanca
province = { id = 391 Terrain = desert} #Trelew
province = { id = 392 Infrastructure = 30} #Junin de los Andes
province = { id = 396 Terrain = desert Oil = 6} #Comodoro Rivadavia
province = { id = 398 Climate = Subartic Terrain = desert Infrastructure = 30 Coal = 20} #San Julian
province = { id = 401 IC = 0} #Lago Posadas
province = { id = 412 Terrain = hills Infrastructure = 20 IC = 0 Coal = 5}


Please let me know any suggestions or critiscism.

 

[Truchses]

Procer, with all this divisions do you want Argentina to take it on with the SU?

 

[Procer]

In fact, there's less divisions in all scenarios than there is in vainilla HoI. Honestly. I also suggested an ai file in another thread, which i tested with these units. Argentina showed to build a more balanced army wih a more realistic size using the building priorities i have chosen. Anywya i should test it even more.

Btw, regarding the changes i suggested for the map of Argentina i did not included changing the Andes provinces to hills because i thought it would be a very radical change and also i think that the the most important terrain there (militarly speaking) would be the access to the paths that lead to Chile through the mountains as well as the biggest reservoir of mineral water in the world which lies in the middle of the mountains between Argentina and Chile in the southern Andes.

Anyway i raised the infrastructure in the middle and northern Andes to better reflect the fact that those regions could support a decent army or corps. I also added coal in the Lago Posadas (i think) where there is the biggest coal deposit present in Argentina.

I hope it's ok.

 

[Steel]

There's some errors in it, I've fixed most of them but it seems to be choking on the climate commands.


Working code (no comments, no climate changes)

#Argentina
province = { id = 365 infra = 0.40 maxinfra = 0.40 ic = 4 maxic = 4 manpower = 3}
province = { id = 369 infra = 0.35 maxinfra = 0.35 terrain = "marsh" ic = 2 maxic = 2 manpower = 1 rubber = 5}
province = { id = 370 ic = 10 maxic = 10 manpower = 4} 
province = { id = 373 infra = 0.35 maxinfra = 0.35 manpower = 2}
province = { id = 374 terrain = "hills" infra = 0.60 maxinfra = 0.60 ic = 12 maxic = 12 } 
province = { id = 380 infra = 0.40 maxinfra = 0.40 ic = 2 maxic = 2 manpower = 1} 
province = { id = 383 ic = 0 maxic = 0 } 
province = { id = 384 } 
province = { id = 385 infra = 0.60 maxinfra = 0.60 } 
province = { id = 386 infra = 0.60 maxinfra = 0.60 } 
province = { id = 391 terrain = "desert" } 
province = { id = 392 infra = 0.30 maxinfra = 0.30 } 
province = { id = 396 terrain = "desert" Oil = 6} 
province = { id = 398 terrain = "desert" infra = 0.30 maxinfra = 0.35 coal = 20} 
province = { id = 401 ic = 0 maxic = 0 } 
province = { id = 412 Terrain = "hills" infra = 0.20 maxinfra = 0.20 ic = 0 maxic = 0 coal = 5}

 

[Procer]

Thanks! The comments were put just as a reference to province id (it wasn't meant to be included).

Sorry for the errors.

 

[Junkyard_Pope]

In Paraguay, Mariscal Estigarriba and in Bolivia, Santa Cruz should both be desert provinces. It is high plateau desert and famous in South America for having hosted the Gran Chaco War.

Also, Sao Paulo should have some manpower! Even if it's taken from another Brazilian province.

 

[Generalisimo]

Originally posted by Junkyard_Pope
Also, Sao Paulo should have some manpower! Even if it's taken from another Brazilian province.

yes we would rework MP, specially in Brazil.

 

[MateDow]

Inter-American Conference

I found a reference to an Inter-American Cooperation Conference held in Buenas Aires in 1938. Does anyone have any details about that conference? It might make a good event for keeping Argentina and other South American countries out of the Axis. MDow

 

[Ghost_dk]

Re: Inter-American Conference

Originally posted by MateDow
I found a reference to an Inter-American Cooperation Conference held in Buenas Aires in 1938. Does anyone have any details about that conference? It might make a good event for keeping Argentina and other South American countries out of the Axis. MDow

I dont know about the conference but i game some democratic points to the south american countries that gave support to Finland in the winter war. Should help a little also because many of them are the later allies of Germany

ghost_dk

 

[Generalisimo]

Re: Re: Inter-American Conference

Originally posted by Ghost_dk
I dont know about the conference but i game some democratic points to the south american countries that gave support to Finland in the winter war. Should help a little also because many of them are the later allies of Germany

ghost_dk

be aware, the best american ally of Germany, Argentina, D) went to all those conferences, BUT, we only ratified (confirmed?) 4 of the 56 conventions and treaties adopted there.... we became the worst "ratifier" of all times in South America...
The problem is simple, Argentina aristocracy felt more near Europe than USA (well, they felt "europeans" and ignored the USA), our military men (the power in that time) felt identified with Germany and their "nationalism", so, a perfect "cocktail" for ignoring USA and becoming more "fascists" in HoI...
Almost every historical event will bring us into the fascist corner in HoI....
Remember that, ONLY, when the USA put a LOOOOOT of pressure against us, we signed a "paper" declaring war against the axis power... in may of 1945... ... just days before they surrendered...

 

[Ghost_dk]

Re: Re: Re: Inter-American Conference

Originally posted by Generalisimo
be aware, the best american ally of Germany, Argentina, D) went to all those conferences, BUT, we only ratified (confirmed?) 4 of the 56 conventions and treaties adopted there.... we became the worst "ratifier" of all times in South America...
The problem is simple, Argentina aristocracy felt more near Europe than USA (well, they felt "europeans" and ignored the USA), our military men (the power in that time) felt identified with Germany and their "nationalism", so, a perfect "cocktail" for ignoring USA and becoming more "fascists" in HoI...
Almost every historical event will bring us into the fascist corner in HoI....
Remember that, ONLY, when the USA put a LOOOOOT of pressure against us, we signed a "paper" declaring war against the axis power... in may of 1945... ... just days before they surrendered...

I think i only have one argentina event in the finnish set and that one gives 5 points towards democracy. if thats too much feel free to change it.

Ghost_dk

 

[Generalisimo]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Inter-American Conference

Originally posted by Ghost_dk
I think i only have one argentina event in the finnish set and that one gives 5 points towards democracy. if thats too much feel free to change it.

Ghost_dk

it will only delay the entrance of Argentina... no problem with that... 5 points is not much...

 

[Procer]

Originally posted by MateDow
I found a reference to an Inter-American Cooperation Conference held in Buenas Aires in 1938. Does anyone have any details about that conference? It might make a good event for keeping Argentina and other South American countries out of the Axis. MDow

I have a lot of info about it but in spanish. In fact, thre were a lot of "panamerican conferences". They were held each 2 years in different countries. The more importants, if i remember well, were the one in 1940 and the one in 1942.

Regarding what Generalisimo wrote, it's half truth. Many argentinean conservatives were leaned towards Europe rather than towards the US. But that "Europe" included the UK and France... specially the UK. There has ben always some confusion regarding Argentina's alignment.

The society was divided, when not unconcerned, about the axis and allies alignment (look at the turbulence those years in Argentina). Part of the Army was pro-axis, but just because their interest in purchasing german technology and equipment (and make a lot of money from the corruption around the deal... for sure). Another part was more leaned towards the UK, and probably the Navy too (although they bought italian ships in the 30's).

There was a small liberal movement, but that caused a lot of noise, called F.O.R.J.A. who was anti-imperialist (anti-UK and anti-US) but at the same time they didn't like the nazis and the fascists. In fact, they were truely democratic because they were fighting against the fraud in the elections that started in Argentina around the 30s. Anyway they were labeled sometimes as fascists (they weren't). More confusion... They came from the Yrigoyenist side of the radical party but later they disapeared in mid 40's. Some of them joined Peron's movement later on, appealed by his populist propaganda.

Was Peron a fascist (1946)? It was a populist. He harbored german "refugees" but i think that he was looking for german technology (submarine tech, jet fighter tech, missile tech) the same way the US did after the war.

Anyway... if you look at the panamerican conferences and Argentina's behavior, the foreign ministers were always willing to sign common declarations, treaties, etc... the problem was at home, i guess, and failed to ratify what has been signed.

Btw, Saavadra Lamas won the Peace Nobel price sometime during 1938, i think, because of his intervention during to solve the Chaco War between Bolivia and Paraguay. He was probably the best diplomat Argentina ever had.

 

[MateDow]

Would you be willing to write up a summary of the conferences in English that could be used as descriptions for events? I might give up on Argentina as a lost cause, but in the past couple of games that I watched Bolivia joined the Axis as well. Who knows what Brazil would have done (they were loyal members of a neutral US at that point ). It seems like the Axis does a lot of recruiting in South America once the first part of the war ends IMO. MDow

 

[Ghost_dk]

Ok just to clerify what i did with the finnish aid events from south America.

Basically what i did was this

a promise for aid = +5 democratic

actually going through and helping = +10 democratic

so a max of 15 from these events towards democracy

some nations only made the promise=+5

some also came through = +15

and yet some gave withouth promesing aid first = +10

Ghost_dk

 

[brandnew70x7]

http://www.combinedfleet.com/furashita/almira_f.htm

Chile had an aircraft carrier!

 

[Generalisimo]

Originally posted by Burris
http://www.combinedfleet.com/furashita/almira_f.htm

Chile had an aircraft carrier!

according to the Chile Armada (Navy ):

Constructed by Vickers, Elswick, England. Twin of armored "Admiral Latorre". Initially was called "Santiago" and later "Constitution". It did not arrive at Chile. It was confiscated by England during World War I and transformed during his construction into aircraft carrier H.M.S. "Eagle", that was sunk by the German submarines during World War II.

Original text in spanish:

Construido por Vickers, Elswick, Inglaterra. Gemelo del acorazado "Almirante Latorre". Inicialmente se llamó "Santiago" y después "Constitución". No llegó a Chile. Fue requisado por Inglaterra durante la Primera Guerra Mundial y transformado durante su construcción en el portaaviones H.M.S. "Eagle", que fue hundido por los submarinos alemanes durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial.