-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
As I stated in the event, popular thought was that Germany assasinated him to install a leader willing to put Bulgaria in a war with the USSR.
so, if that is true, then you must check if Bulgaria is not allied with germany, if Bulgaria is already allied, this event should not happen.
well, but if he was allied with Germany and was at war...
i do not see why this event MUST happen EVERYTIME...
at least add to it a "random = x "...
########################################################################
# The Death of Boris III
########################################################################
event = {
id = 702020
random = no
country = BUL
trigger = {
exists = BUL
alliance = { country = GER country = BUL }
}
name = "Bulgaria in Mourning - Tsar Boris III Dies - Conspiracy"
desc = "Tsar Boris III (1884-1943) was an important figure in the World Wars. Historically he followed Germany (Mainly to regain territory lost in the Treaty of Neuilly) He did however
manage to save the Bulgarian Jewish population, and never declared war on the USSR. When Hitler summoned Boris to Germany, it was agreed he would declare war on the USA and UK, but not the USSR.
Shortly after his return to Sofia, he died of an apparent heart failure, though many in Bulgaria felt it was a Nazi conspiracy to put a more pro-Nazi government in power. He was succeeded by his
infant son Simeon II."
style = 0
date = { day = 28 month = august year = 1943 }
offset = 1
action_a = {
name = "This is a Sad Day For Bulgaria"
command = { type = dissent value = 15 }
command = { type = headofstate which = 19041 }
command = { type = alignment which = communist value = 50 }
}
}
########################################################################
# The Death of Boris III
########################################################################
event = {
id = 702021
random = no
country = BUL
trigger = {
exists = BUL
atwar = no
}
name = "Bulgaria in Mourning - Tsar Boris III"
desc = "Tsar Boris III (1884-1943) was an important figure in the World Wars. Historically he followed Germany (Mainly to regain territory lost in the Treaty of Neuilly) He did however
manage to save the Bulgarian Jewish population, and never declared war on the USSR. When Hitler summoned Boris to Germany, it was agreed he would declare war on the USA and UK, but not the USSR.
Shortly after his return to Sofia, he died of an apparent heart failure, though many in Bulgaria felt it was a Nazi conspiracy to put a more pro-Nazi government in power. He was succeeded by his
infant son Simeon II."
style = 0
date = { day = 28 month = august year = 1943 }
offset = 1
action_a = {
name = "This is a Sad Day For Bulgaria"
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
command = { type = headofstate which = 19041 }
}
}
# The Death of Boris III
########################################################################
event = {
id = 702020
random = no
country = BUL
trigger = {
exists = BUL
alliance = { country = GER country = BUL }
}
name = "Bulgaria in Mourning - Tsar Boris III Dies - Conspiracy"
desc = "Tsar Boris III (1884-1943) was an important figure in the World Wars. Historically he followed Germany (Mainly to regain territory lost in the Treaty of Neuilly) He did however
manage to save the Bulgarian Jewish population, and never declared war on the USSR. When Hitler summoned Boris to Germany, it was agreed he would declare war on the USA and UK, but not the USSR.
Shortly after his return to Sofia, he died of an apparent heart failure, though many in Bulgaria felt it was a Nazi conspiracy to put a more pro-Nazi government in power. He was succeeded by his
infant son Simeon II."
style = 0
date = { day = 28 month = august year = 1943 }
offset = 1
action_a = {
name = "This is a Sad Day For Bulgaria"
command = { type = dissent value = 15 }
command = { type = headofstate which = 19041 }
command = { type = alignment which = communist value = 50 }
}
}
########################################################################
# The Death of Boris III
########################################################################
event = {
id = 702021
random = no
country = BUL
trigger = {
exists = BUL
atwar = no
}
name = "Bulgaria in Mourning - Tsar Boris III"
desc = "Tsar Boris III (1884-1943) was an important figure in the World Wars. Historically he followed Germany (Mainly to regain territory lost in the Treaty of Neuilly) He did however
manage to save the Bulgarian Jewish population, and never declared war on the USSR. When Hitler summoned Boris to Germany, it was agreed he would declare war on the USA and UK, but not the USSR.
Shortly after his return to Sofia, he died of an apparent heart failure, though many in Bulgaria felt it was a Nazi conspiracy to put a more pro-Nazi government in power. He was succeeded by his
infant son Simeon II."
style = 0
date = { day = 28 month = august year = 1943 }
offset = 1
action_a = {
name = "This is a Sad Day For Bulgaria"
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
command = { type = headofstate which = 19041 }
}
}
in the first event, instead of:
alliance = { country = GER country = BUL }
you could put
NOT = {
AND = {
war = { country =BUL country = SOV }
alliance = { country = BUL country = SOV }
}
}
So, Germany seeing that Bulgaria is NOT allied with the Soviet Union AND that it is not at war with Soviet Union, they killed the Tsar to put a more fascist regime.
So, if that is true, then Bulgaria should go to the fascist corner and NOT to the communist corner (you represent the upset by the dissent, not by sending them to the communist side, that will make it harder to attack the soviet union).
after that, they declared war against the Soviet Union, right?
If you want to send them to the communist side, then you must add a new event with an offset of x (i don't know 30 days maybe? ) that brings Bulgaria to the axis side.
cheers.
alliance = { country = GER country = BUL }
you could put
NOT = {
AND = {
war = { country =BUL country = SOV }
alliance = { country = BUL country = SOV }
}
}
So, Germany seeing that Bulgaria is NOT allied with the Soviet Union AND that it is not at war with Soviet Union, they killed the Tsar to put a more fascist regime.
So, if that is true, then Bulgaria should go to the fascist corner and NOT to the communist corner (you represent the upset by the dissent, not by sending them to the communist side, that will make it harder to attack the soviet union).
after that, they declared war against the Soviet Union, right?
If you want to send them to the communist side, then you must add a new event with an offset of x (i don't know 30 days maybe? ) that brings Bulgaria to the axis side.
cheers.
No, the Pro-German regime never came to power. Bulgarians hated Germany more and they never declared war on USSR.
maybe i am wrong, but there were never some Bulgarian forces fighting against the soviets?
i thought there was some...
Nope. Bulgarian troops only occupied Bulgarian Macedonia. They never sent troops officially to fight, perhaps volunteers, but they never declared war.
Romania, Slovakia, and Hungary did, but not Bulgaria.
Romania, Slovakia, and Hungary did, but not Bulgaria.
so, maybe i am messing up thing with volunteers or something like that, but i am sure I have read about bulgarian forces fighting in the eastern front.
The USSR didn't even declare war on Bulgaria till September 3rd 1944.
I think the government was overthrown before they engaged the Russians.
I can understand though, the situation in Bulgaria was very complicated.
I think the government was overthrown before they engaged the Russians.
I can understand though, the situation in Bulgaria was very complicated.
yes, of course it was complicated...
i have to look more on this, because i am sure they fought against the soviets...
but, it would not change much in the game...
cheers.
I searched on google to be absolutely sure, and everything that came up talked about the fact there was NO cooperation on that matter or the deportation of jews.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Bulgaria+Eastern+Front
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Bulgaria+Eastern+Front
Well, here the problem is that bulgaria was fascist, but the partisans were communist...currently we could not simulate the partisans uprisings in Bulgaria...
The problem with the east front, the whole diplomatic system in HOI is WAY too weak to represent the real situation.
The whole system is black and white, one way or the other.
They need non-agression pacts, and other stuff. It would've added alot of depth.
The whole system is black and white, one way or the other.
They need non-agression pacts, and other stuff. It would've added alot of depth.
Regarding Bulgaria, I started a thread a while ago - http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74493
it has some good links in my opinion on the subject of bulgarian participation in WW2 (unfortunatelly there are not so many). Burris is absolutely right, when he says that Bulgaria never declared war to USSR, nor did Bulgaria ever sent any forces to Russia. I've studied Bulgarian participation in the war for years (I'm a student in International Relations in Sofia) and I've never seen any postive info of a single bulgarian soldier sent to Russia. There were of course some clashes in 1941 in the Black sea region, where Soviet subs and planes attacked Bulgarian merchant shipping, Bulgarian planes attacking Soviet subs there, Soviet subs unloading Bulgarian communist groups on bulgarian shore, and some unconfirmed reports about Soviet planes bombing Dobrich in June 1941. But the fact is that there was a Bulgarian embassy in Moscow in 1941-1944, and the countries were not officially at war until 6th of September, 1944, when Soviet Union declared war on Bulgaria, and even then the war "lasted" only several days, as on 9th the Communist uprising in Sofia took place, and the communist came to power. The interesting point is that on 5th of September, the new Bulgarian government had already declared a war on Germany, thus for a brief period Bulgaria was at war with US, UK, USSR and Germany.
Also Burris is right that Czar Boris III death increased seriously the level of dissent in Bulgaria. The King was a popular figure, but his authoritarian style of ruling Bulgaria resulted in sidelining and alienating all major political leaders, and after his death, the system of government he established, began to disintegrate slowly. The anti-fascist resistance, insignificant till late 1943, began to gather strength. The fact that by 1943 it was clear that the Germany was again losing the war, and Bulgaria was again on the losing side; and the start of the allied bombing raids over Bulgaria, also added fuel to the dissent.
About whether Boris was poisoned and by whom, there are different theories. Some claim it was the Germans, some blaim the British intelligence, or the Communists, some say his death was of natural cause.
it has some good links in my opinion on the subject of bulgarian participation in WW2 (unfortunatelly there are not so many). Burris is absolutely right, when he says that Bulgaria never declared war to USSR, nor did Bulgaria ever sent any forces to Russia. I've studied Bulgarian participation in the war for years (I'm a student in International Relations in Sofia) and I've never seen any postive info of a single bulgarian soldier sent to Russia. There were of course some clashes in 1941 in the Black sea region, where Soviet subs and planes attacked Bulgarian merchant shipping, Bulgarian planes attacking Soviet subs there, Soviet subs unloading Bulgarian communist groups on bulgarian shore, and some unconfirmed reports about Soviet planes bombing Dobrich in June 1941. But the fact is that there was a Bulgarian embassy in Moscow in 1941-1944, and the countries were not officially at war until 6th of September, 1944, when Soviet Union declared war on Bulgaria, and even then the war "lasted" only several days, as on 9th the Communist uprising in Sofia took place, and the communist came to power. The interesting point is that on 5th of September, the new Bulgarian government had already declared a war on Germany, thus for a brief period Bulgaria was at war with US, UK, USSR and Germany.
Also Burris is right that Czar Boris III death increased seriously the level of dissent in Bulgaria. The King was a popular figure, but his authoritarian style of ruling Bulgaria resulted in sidelining and alienating all major political leaders, and after his death, the system of government he established, began to disintegrate slowly. The anti-fascist resistance, insignificant till late 1943, began to gather strength. The fact that by 1943 it was clear that the Germany was again losing the war, and Bulgaria was again on the losing side; and the start of the allied bombing raids over Bulgaria, also added fuel to the dissent.
About whether Boris was poisoned and by whom, there are different theories. Some claim it was the Germans, some blaim the British intelligence, or the Communists, some say his death was of natural cause.
Originally posted by Generalisimo
Well, here the problem is that bulgaria was fascist, but the partisans were communist...currently we could not simulate the partisans uprisings in Bulgaria...
Bulgaria was not fascist - it was authoritarian. It was a German ally in the war against UK and US, but quite a reluctant ally. It never sent troups or fought a land action agaisnt them. The two political leaders in Bulgaria, that were the closest to fascist ideas, general Lukov and Alexander Tzankov never came to power - the first was killed by a communist partisan strike group, and the second only succeeded in forming a fascist government in exile in late 1944 in Germany. He began to gather volunteers, but the war soon ended, and they ended as emigrants in the West.
Anyway the points is Bulgaria never had a true fascist government. Bogdan Filov was not fascist, he simply preferred Germany than the Allies. His government and the Germans often clashed about the excecess of the bulgarian fascist groups, organized and financed by Germany.
well, thanks for the info.
do you have any leaders/ministers pictures? because you can help with adding them to the game.
cheers.
Originally posted by Generalisimo
well, thanks for the info.
do you have any leaders/ministers pictures? because you can help with adding them to the game.
cheers.
OK. I have some. I can easily acquire more of course. Now all I need is a scanner.
BTW: Seems to me that not long ago I've seen somewhere in the forum a list of all the leaders/ministers lacking pictures. But I can remember where and now I couldn't find it. Could someone please tell me where it is?