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Open naval_tech.txt (on HOI\mod-core\db\tech\ folder), search for this paragraph:
Code:
application = { # Large Carrier
			id = 6948
			name = "Large Carrier"
			desc = "Experience with ......... aircraft carriers."
			
			required = { 6725 6730 6731 6732 6745 13210 13308 }
			chance = 90
			cost = 3
			time = 270
			neg_offset = 20
			pos_offset = 40
			
			effects = {
				command = { type = new_model which = carrier value = 8 }

The bug is on the last line, it should be:
Code:
command = { type = new_model which = carrier value = 11 }
 
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Tested playing Sweden with Core 0.7, noticed that the unit designation for Motorized was listed as "Mekaniserat Infanteri" which means Mechanized Infantry, should be "Motoriserat Infanteri" instead.

Checked models.inc file in mod-CORE/config and it is something wrong there:

MODEL_SWE_2_0;Motoriserat Infanteri;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_SWE_2_2;Motoriserat Infanteri '44;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_SWE_2_0;Mekaniserat Infanteri;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_SWE_2_2;Mekaniserat Infanteri '44;;;;;;;;;;x

the last two sentences should be:
MODEL_SWE_3_0;Mekaniserat Infanteri;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_SWE_3_2;Mekaniserat Infanteri '44;;;;;;;;;;x

Further errors/questionmarks in same file for Sweden:

MODEL_SWE_10_1;SAAB S-18A (Basic);;;;;;;;;;x
should be
MODEL_SWE_10_1;SAAB 18A (Basic);;;;;;;;;;x
Reason is that the plane was built in two models, B-18A was the first produced version, while the S-18A was B-18A's converted to recon planes after the B-18B entered service.

MODEL_SWE_12_0;SAAB Helldiver (PW);;;;;;;;;;x
why not use Hawker Hart (B4 in Sweden) instead, since it was the first dive bomber in use in Sweden and was basically of the same type as Henschel 123 (pre-war dive bomber in Germany).

Also move the SAAB Helldiver, which I presume means the license-built Northrop 8A-1 (B5 in Swedish service) to the MODEL_SWE_12_1;Republic Seversky 2P-A Guardsman (Basic) position instead. Only two planes of the Guardsman entered service as due to rest being embargoed by USA in 1940 and, IMHO, fits better with real-life order of battles.
 

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Thanks MadUrb,

some are copy&paste error, while the double 10_1 entry is a leftover from a older version...
I will fix them ASAP.

About 12_0/12_1 I will put Hawker hart as 12_0, but I cannot change 12_1 since Helldiver was a Pre-War plane....
 

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Well, one bug is the British Infantry model is named as Guards, and i'm more than 100% sure there was only one guard divisions and a few guard brigades (my grandad was in 3rd Coldstreams, 201st Guards Brigade)
So I think it would be better to put it back to normal Infantry (perhaps a Guards division model like the SS elite for Germany, though the comparison between the Wehrmacht and SS is totally different compared to normal British Infantry and British Guards)

Plus i'm getting a tonne of errors before the scenario starts up. Mainly about organisation I think, i'll double check it and then get back.
 

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Shadow Reaper said:
Plus i'm getting a tonne of errors before the scenario starts up. Mainly about organisation I think, i'll double check it and then get back.


If you get errors on start (lhs prefs =) that indicates the 1.05c patch is not correctly installed. You can verify this by checking the date on HoI.exe and compare to the HoI.exe in the 1.05c download.
 

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Pkunzipper said:
About 12_0/12_1 I will put Hawker hart as 12_0, but I cannot change 12_1 since Helldiver was a Pre-War plane....

Ok, thats fine with me, if we are talking about the same plane type. But the Nortrop 8A-1 (aka Helldiver?) became available on the same time as the first versions of the Ju87 Stuka and was also a monoplane design with some good inovations for its day. The Henschel 123 and Hawker Hart are both bi-planes (or semi-bi planes in the case of the He123) and introduced dive-bombing techniques to both Sweden and Germany.

With Helldiver do you refer to the Curtiss SB2C Helldiver? It was not introduced into service in the US until 1943 (http://www.warbirdalley.com/sb2c.htm) and never served in Sweden.

The plane I refer to is the Northrop A17 in US service (http://www.boeing.com/history/mdc/a-17.htm) and was the B5 in Sweden (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Bomb/154B5.htm)
 

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Bug

I have only found a couple of spell ckeck type of errors which are not a big deal. I did however find an error as I was playing the US. Close Blockade Doctrine is not deactivating with the discovery of Distant Blockade Doctrine. Also during the Russia Needs a Navy event Russia gets the US denies response at the same time I get the option to respond to USSR as the US.

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MadUrb said:
Ok, thats fine with me, if we are talking about the same plane type. But the Nortrop 8A-1 (aka Helldiver?) became available on the same time as the first versions of the Ju87 Stuka and was also a monoplane design with some good inovations for its day. The Henschel 123 and Hawker Hart are both bi-planes (or semi-bi planes in the case of the He123) and introduced dive-bombing techniques to both Sweden and Germany.

With Helldiver do you refer to the Curtiss SB2C Helldiver? It was not introduced into service in the US until 1943 (http://www.warbirdalley.com/sb2c.htm) and never served in Sweden.

The plane I refer to is the Northrop A17 in US service (http://www.boeing.com/history/mdc/a-17.htm) and was the B5 in Sweden (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Bomb/154B5.htm)

Thanks for the links, now I understood. I was referring to Curtiss SBC Helldiver, a biplane dive bomber. Ok, Northrop A8-1 will be 12_1 on the next fix-pack!
 

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World Populations are really off.

This is the current world population (As per Berkley University). Population really needs to be tweaked to be more realistic. One country should be used to base all numbers off of (maybe USA or Germany) and then a simple formula should be used to distribute the population correctly accross the provinces of all the countries.

An example: Mexico currently in CORE v.7 has 1 population. The entire country of Mexico as 1 single population counter. Yet, you can see below that they are ranked as the 11th most populated country in the world. (Germany is 12th place)

1) China 1,250,463,856
2) India 997,892,285
3) United States 273,131,194
4) Indonesia 221,110,775
5) Brazil 171,155,221
6) Russian Federation 146,515,771
7) Pakistan 138,496,052
8) Bangladesh 127,146,060
9) Japan 126,314,453
10) Nigeria 120,051,679
11) Mexico 98,806,793
12) Germany 82,561,399
13) Philippines 79,483,021
14) Viet Nam 77,600,713
15) Egypt 67,178,624
16) Iran 65,045,410
17) Turkey 64,819,580
18) Ethiopia 62,361,042
19) Thailand 60,652,737
20) United Kingdom 59,355,419
21) France 59,100,912
22) Italy 57,577,963
23) Republic of the Congo 50,481,305
24) Ukraine 49,565,699
25) Myanmar 48,081,302
26) Republic of Korea 46,884,800
27) South Africa 43,169,542
28) Spain 39,953,459
29) Colombia 39,016,113
30) Poland 38,657,804
31) Argentina 36,525,173
32) Sudan 34,085,246
33) United Rep. of Tanzania 31,270,820
34) Canada 30,957,019
35) Algeria 30,646,447
36) Kenya 29,841,986
37) Morocco 29,596,788
38) Peru 26,534,898
39) Afghanistan 24,960,734
40) Uzbekistan 24,363,320
41) Nepal 24,127,391
42) Venezuela 23,162,188
43) Uganda 22,684,419
44) Romania 22,459,190
45) Iraq 22,031,349
46) Taiwan 22,009,588
47) People's Rep. of Korea 21,386,109
48) Malaysia 21,354,459
49) Saudi Arabia 21,311,439
50) Ghana 19,162,016
51) Sri Lanka 19,064,642
52) Australia 18,968,247
53) Mozambique 18,810,689
54) Yemen 16,904,520
55) Kazakstan 16,748,745
56) Syrian Arab Republic 15,888,917
57) Netherlands 15,800,144
58) Cote d'Ivoire 15,597,241
59) Madagascar 15,045,015
60) Cameroon 15,042,674
61) Chile 14,974,187
62) Ecuador 12,655,787
63) Guatemala 12,310,953
64) Cambodia 11,936,938
65) Burkina Faso 11,625,671
66) Zimbabwe 11,304,561
67) Cuba 11,097,849
68) Greece 10,578,659
69) Serbia and Montenegro 10,394,026
70) Belarus 10,382,370
71) Mali 10,375,351
72) Czech Republic 10,281,012
73) Belgium 10,222,784
74) Malawi 10,216,489
75) Hungary 10,174,304
76) Portugal 10,030,143
77) Angola 9,927,423
78) Niger 9,802,401
79) Senegal 9,697,240
80) Tunisia 9,478,606
81) Zambia 9,397,681
82) Sweden 8,870,660
83) Dominican Republic 8,304,639
84) Chad 8,143,948
85) Austria 8,111,238
86) Bolivia 8,001,930
87) Bulgaria 7,889,000
88) Azerbaijan 7,729,131
89) Guinea 7,369,800
90) Switzerland 7,242,118
91) Rwanda 7,152,966
92) Somalia 7,043,751
93) Haiti 6,774,081
94) Tajikistan 6,308,673
95) Benin 6,203,859
96) Honduras 6,091,999
97) El Salvador 6,008,356
98) Burundi 5,856,010
99) Israel 5,742,719
100) Paraguay 5,439,657
101) Slovakia 5,400,749
102) Laos 5,361,704
103) Denmark 5,319,545
104) Finland 5,158,392
105) Sierra Leone 5,076,095
106) Georgia 5,055,241
107) Libya 4,993,414
108) Togo 4,882,257
109) Jordan 4,842,831
110) Papua New Guinea 4,806,270
111) Nicaragua 4,706,032
112) Kyrgyzstan 4,625,762
113) Republic of Moldova 4,460,838
114) Norway 4,458,312
115) Turkmenistan 4,433,925
116) Croatia 4,254,361
117) Singapore 4,008,204
118) Eritrea 3,979,339
119) Puerto Rico 3,889,507
120) New Zealand 3,774,096
121) Ireland 3,753,530
122) Bosnia and Herzegovina 3,689,908
123) Costa Rica 3,647,319
124) Lithuania 3,631,298
125) Lebanon 3,528,559
126) Central African Republic 3,450,284
127) Albania 3,442,656
128) Armenia 3,354,286
129) Uruguay 3,308,695
130) Liberia 2,985,333
131) Panama 2,770,081
132) Congo 2,768,018
133) Jamaica 2,639,493
134) Mauritania 2,590,516
135) Mongolia 2,578,632
136) Oman 2,447,279
137) Latvia 2,425,511
138) United Arab Emirates 2,330,923
139) Lesotho 2,106,810
140) Yugoslav (Macedonia) 2,032,459
141) Bhutan 1,961,642
142) Slovenia 1,924,499
143) Kuwait 1,905,246
144) Namibia 1,742,226
145) Botswana 1,562,534
146) Estonia 1,439,980
147) Gambia 1,323,631
148) Guinea-Bissau 1,255,221
149) Gabon 1,195,232
150) Trinidad and Tobago 1,181,202
151) Gaza Strip 1,087,872
152) Swaziland 1,060,719
153) Fiji 820,823
154) Cyprus 753,692
155) Qatar 719,306
156) Reunion 717,723
157) Guyana 698,546
158) Bahrain 622,634
159) Comoros 561,063
160) Equatorial Guinea 462,606
161) Solomon Islands 452,067
162) Djibouti 444,988
163) Macau 437,417
164) Luxembourg 431,904
165) Suriname 428,409
166) Guadeloupe 421,729
167) Martinique 410,487
168) Cape Verde 397,270
169) Malta 388,756
170) Brunei Darussalam 328,979
171) Maldives 292,307
172) Bahamas 291,913
173) Iceland 274,777
174) Barbados 272,794
175) French Polynesia 244,679
176) Belize 242,438
177) Western Sahara 239,333
178) Netherlands Antilles 207,987
179) New Caledonia 198,714
180) Vanuatu 186,282
181) Samoa 179,843
182) French Guiana 167,459
183) Sao Tome and Principe 154,929
184) Saint Lucia 154,381
185) Guam 151,968
186) Micronesia 131,500
187) US Virgin Islands 119,827
188) St Vincent & Grenadines 114,900
189) Tonga 100,475
190) East Timor 100,000
191) Kiribati 89,843
192) Grenada 89,470
193) Seychelles 78,919
194) Isle of Man 72,740
195) Dominica 72,244
196) N. Mariana Islands 69,398
197) Aruba 69,083
198) Andorra 65,997
199) Antigua and Barbuda 65,929
200) Marshall Islands 65,539
201) American Samoa 63,781
202) Bermuda 62,516
203) Greenland 56,245
204) Faeroe Islands 44,913
205) Saint Kitts and Nevis 38,929
206) Cayman Islands 33,982
207) Liechtenstein 31,874
208) Monaco 31,540
209) Gibraltar 27,501
210) San Marino 26,534
211) Cook Islands 20,200
212) Channel Islands 20,000
213) British Virgin Islands 19,156
214) Palau 18,434
215) Turks and Caicos Islands 16,881
216) Wallis & Futuna Islands 15,129
217) Nauru 11,602
218) Anguilla 11,451
219) Tuvalu 10,686
220) St Pierre and Miquelon 6,861
221) Montserrat 4,944
222) Antarctica 3,786
223) Falkland Islands 2,758
224) Niue 2,103
225) Tokelau 1,471
226) Pitcairn Islands 49
 

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I have a very interesting game going....Playing USSR. USA elected a commie as pres so they went all the way left so they joined the comintern. Anyway as a side note the ai for a comintern usa is worthless they just stack troops in dc area and don't do any thing.

My discovered bug... "IRAQ went with Accept Alliance in Confrontation at Haban'yya Airbase" {Iraq is somehow an axis member}

What follows is the bug

England leaves allies
England and satellites enter axis

The bug u ask well they remain at war with axis plus i'm (ussr) not at war with england. They are lost they are on the fence...axis gets the points for them being a member...but they're not fighting anyone. I do have a save game or two around that timeframe but not right on it.
 

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KorosQA said:
This is the current world population (As per Berkley University). Population really needs to be tweaked to be more realistic. One country should be used to base all numbers off of (maybe USA or Germany) and then a simple formula should be used to distribute the population correctly accross the provinces of all the countries.

An example: Mexico currently in CORE v.7 has 1 population. The entire country of Mexico as 1 single population counter. Yet, you can see below that they are ranked as the 11th most populated country in the world. (Germany is 12th place)(...)

As you probably probably noticed, CORE 0.7 has changed manpower in most of the world's countries. In HoI manpower is not real country population, but the pool of human reserves that can be conscripted in case of emergency/war - in the latest version of CORE we have made some changes to ensure, that this pool can't be used in peace time.

Minimized in times of peace, pool is given back to the country when it is attacked or international situation becomes tense. Some countries, notably Nazi Germany and Soviet Union don't have manpower blocked - it's partially gameplay choice, partially representiation of war-like nature of both ideologies.

I know it can create some confusion - I suggest reading FAQ added to the 0.7 instalation, all the mayor changes in recent release are listed there.
 

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Ok, I do understand what you are saying but I really believe that is a very flawed premise. If Mexico (my example of choice) has some DOW them, their usable population does not increase. ANY country that is under attack would have a significant number of people volunteering to serve. It's also very wrong to suggest that a "people" are more aggressive than another. It's the government that dictates this. Otherwise there would be no need for selective service.

I realize this is my opinion but I really believe this is a huge problem with balance.
 

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Ok, I do understand what you are saying but I really believe that is a very flawed premise. If Mexico (my example of choice) has some DOW them, their usable population does not increase. ANY country that is under attack would have a significant number of people volunteering to serve. It's also very wrong to suggest that a "people" are more aggressive than another. It's the government that dictates this. Otherwise there would be no need for selective service.

Where did I stated, that some "people" are more agressive? I was writing about ideology. Of course we can duscuss about that, how much more Hitler's nazizm was warlike then Stalin's communism, but we can't call both
those gentelmen pacifists right? ;)

Mobilization event happens in case of war, but it might be not in the exact moment when the war starts - you can agree, that sometimes war can be such a suprise for the defender, that mobization starts too late?


I realize this is my opinion but I really believe this is a huge problem with balance.

Every opinion gives us something, although I have to say, that the mapower limits and mobilizations are not bugs - those are quite important changes, rising realism of the simulation. Small S. American country can't suddently rise it's army and start world conquest... USA can't build big Army during the peacetime... Poland can't double it's army size when international situation is normal... Few examples what was corrected thanks to this change. :)