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This was a fun session for me.
I learned a short lesson in warfare held by dr bob.

You guys are very good players and i can learn a lot from you.

Thank you for beeing patient with a newbie like me.
 

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Cheech, in your darkest hour help shall arive... and save you from these hell spawn wretches! When all hope seems lost, you will see the light at the end of a tunel. ;)
 
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just stop by to check thing sout...i looked at the stat...i have to say Tonio doing such a terific job with Portugal...i am really amazed...and what is happening to England...Scotland is still there??..uhmm...if u can..next time try to screenshot tihngs in Asia too..let people know a bit about the activities there..curious! :rolleyes:
 

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BurningEGO said:
Cheech, in your darkest hour help shall arive... and save you from these hell spawn wretches! When all hope seems lost, you will see the light at the end of a tunel. ;)

Ego, it is Cheech, who is always aggressive side :) Starting from humilating Venice.
Now he dowed again. Dunno why. At least he got Calais before.
 
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Horible session, trade dropped badly after loss of lots of stab and my CoT. :( Atleast I have the second best techs...
 

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Van Engel said:
Horible session, trade dropped badly after loss of lots of stab and my CoT. :( Atleast I have the second best techs...

It is not for long, NL goes up.
 

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by the way, FAL, i still may notice, that original Portugal MP in your scen still same joke as before, i bet you need to increase it.
 

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i must say that Mulli zombie increased income by 33% :rofl:
 

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ah, that explains my difficulties.
Portugal fought whole last war at 50% maitenance.
 
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by the way, FAL, i still may notice, that original Portugal MP in your scen still same joke as before, i bet you need to increase it.

Nah. Portugal shouldn't be able to field large land armies in Europe if we play a historical scenario. Unfortunately I can't stop them having a large standing army :)

(However this little fact constantly saves the ass of Spain, but eh :D)
 
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another crappy session for france. Lost another 3 provinces i think.

OE is now cut off from the spanish alliance so wont be able to help me again.

looks pretty hopeless but well see.

Well, I do wonder why you simply attacked a strong alliance, instead of either arranging a one on one with me or trying to form a coalition yourself. Or wait till Turenne before launching such wars :)
I would have preferred some years of peace with Spain, since I still don't have an empire to speak about in the Americas.

By the way, I completely screwed the start of this war. Despite me having more income and manpower, I was quickly behind in battle warscore (and still am). In the sunday game I made such mistakes too. Wonder if I am starting getting rusty and old? :)
 

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Ego, it is Cheech, who is always aggressive side :) Starting from humilating Venice.
Now he dowed again. Dunno why. At least he got Calais before.

Thats complete crap tonio. Saying you dont know why? Look at the map duh. Also how am I aggresive? My wars have been as follows.

Venice and spain dow me and took land
austria dowd me and i took 1 prov
i dowd venice took 2 provs
spain, venice and port dowd me and took 6 provs without any other offers
i dowd venice and took 3 provs back (of which i had before)
spain port and venice dowd and took another 6
i dowd spain having had half my country annexed and lost another 4
the latest war


You call this me being aggresive? I have to say the community has changed a lot here. I feel either heartless powergaming is just the done thing or it is something more personal i dont know which.

What does bother me is how little anyone even speaks to me. When dowd the first offer i got in two of these wars was 4-5 prov stab hit.

I dont really enjoy playing this way to be honest. I prefer it when we dont ruin each others countrys so we can all enjoy the game. This is how it used to be anyway. Tonio you talk like i deserved this for something ive done but its not true. I have hardly dowd anyone this game. I actually suspect there are other reasons 'i deserve this' but i have no proof so there we are.

Id rather you finished me off though than leave me to play a wrecked country like this. I dont enjoy it but dont want to be a quitter. At least when brand was annexed he could move on to something else.

PS i think its pretty cowardly spain hiding behind this alliance both before and now. They have been stronger all game but wont face me for a 1v1.
 
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PS i think its pretty cowardly spain hiding behind this alliance both before and now. They have been stronger all game but wont face me for a 1v1.

I have no problem fighting an one on one with you. After this current war is ended, we can arrange a one on one. That does, however, not mean you simply attack when it suits you and I have to make it a one on one ;)
 

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I dont expect you to fight a 1v1 on demmand. It is your choice on how to play.

I asked shortly before the war if we could make it 1v1 but maybe you missed it. I didnt want to give too much warning though.
 

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FAL said:
Nah. Portugal shouldn't be able to field large land armies in Europe if we play a historical scenario. Unfortunately I can't stop them having a large standing army :)

(However this little fact constantly saves the ass of Spain, but eh :D)

FAL, Portugal has 10MP for ages. It is specially annoying when you hire troops in Asia for local rebels, WE increases a lots :)
25-30MP is normal, doesn`t change much support limit of Porto, which goes 80% from other things.
 

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Cheech, i don`t want to make discussion about your argues. Just last 7 months you dissapoint me with rather negative manner, where that is hardly required. Yes, i know, you don`t care about that and do what you want.

I missed two session. For me it looks like you humilated Venice at first. Then you were dowed for that by our alliance as reverse action. Then you tryed to kick again Venice. You went to hit not Spain, but Venice. That ended you lost french provinces. Then you started to fight to take them back, that is logical. But from the start you look for me aggressive side. Not Venice or Portugal or Spain came to your lands. They did in return for your actions. Of course your point of view can be different.

Last session you have good chance to get your goals, but our returning changed this war. As FAL i pretty doesn`t understand reasons why you just dowed again without Turenne.

FAL, i don`t think you can accept 1 on 1 at Turenne times :)
 
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FAL, Portugal has 10MP for ages. It is specially annoying when you hire troops in Asia for local rebels, WE increases a lots :)
25-30MP is normal, doesn`t change much support limit of Porto, which goes 80% from other things.

I know the Portuguese manpower is horrible low. But that is how it was for Potugal in history, if you want to play a historical scenario it means strict limits for some countries. This brings challenges for those who want to play them. There just don't live many people in Portugal :)

But I could upgrade it a bit, since Madeira isn't European in watk3v1.
 

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missed two session. For me it looks like you humilated Venice at first. Then you were dowed for that by our alliance as reverse action. Then you tryed to kick again Venice. You went to hit not Spain, but Venice.

What is really annoying me in this game is not so much the fact you ruining my country but the lies that i brought it on my self for being aggresive. When i am aggresive in games im honest and usually get ganged by coalition. When you have done it this game noone even seems to rekognise it. Its just total apathy and silence.

Venice and spain dowd me first in my first player war this is a fact.
i then dowd venice when i had nap with spain
spain and venice and port then dowd me and took 6
I then dowd venice for 3
etc etc

I did not humiliate venice you did me. Do what you want but dont lie about basic facts. This is what really bothers me. When i do such things i make it part of the game and happy to play the evil guy.

When you do these things tonio you do it out of spite and to 'teach people lesson' Its no way to play EU
 

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cheech said:
What is really annoying me in this game is not so much the fact you ruining my country but the lies that i brought it on my self for being aggresive. When i am aggresive in games im honest and usually get ganged by coalition. When you have done it this game noone even seems to rekognise it. Its just total apathy and silence.

Venice and spain dowd me first in my first player war this is a fact.
i then dowd venice when i had nap with spain
spain and venice and port then dowd me and took 6
I then dowd venice for 3
etc etc

I did not humiliate venice you did me. Do what you want but dont lie about basic facts. This is what really bothers me. When i do such things i make it part of the game and happy to play the evil guy.

When you do these things tonio you do it out of spite and to 'teach people lesson' Its no way to play EU

I wouldnt choose hard words like that... Your France is certainly ruined in one way (still can change; look at spains inflation)... But when you are speaking about a ruined game, it feels like that there is always a damocles sword over it...then it sometimes becomes selffulling... :(