It seems a dual GMship is being established, mixing the soft cuddly hugs of Engel's happy go lucky style with the swift iron fist of my brutality. That means Daniel isn't going to assert his moral code on the game 
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If Daniel plays, he'll be Austria or Poland.Tonioz said:Engel, are you GMing again ????? oh, no
though Joohoo is even lazier and irresponsible more than you
Engel, anyway there is new rule required : "noone is allowed to annex China" :rofl:
it is too dull
Tonioz said:That`s why i call you bad GM
Arguement based on own wish and not rules basis.
Of course it is based upon rules. The rules was to behave "nice" and the rules said that it was the GMs that was the final interpretors of the rules. I have said this 10 times now. How come you continue to pretend as if you had not seen this clear logical argument?
Pure stubbornness?Mention one and present evidence for your statement with a post number.Tonioz said:Really, you probably missed about 30 games last year ?
Van Engel said:If Daniel plays, he'll be Austria or Poland.
In your dreams
BTW, why have you not said yet that we start next week? If you are lazy we need to have a new GM.
And why have you not commented on the suggestion to play two days a week? It was you who suggested it 3 hours ago? Mondays and Wednesdays you said. And now you said Tuesday?
Dr Bob said:It seems a dual GMship is being established, mixing the soft cuddly hugs of Engel's happy go lucky style with the swift iron fist of my brutality. That means Daniel isn't going to assert his moral code on the game
So what is your moral code?
BTW, mine is the iron fist
Daniel A said:Of course it is based upon rules. The rules was to behave "nice" and the rules said that it was the GMs that was the final interpretors of the rules. I have said this 10 times now. How come you continue to pretend as if you had not seen this clear logical argument?
Daniel, when i join the game, i rate GM and think about his objective when he uses the power. You definetely failed at this purpose. Your GMing already created more problems than problems between players.
When GM judjes objectively, it lowers number of problems and down conflicts. Iniatally, opposite, you raised them. The power for GM is given not for applying own view without thinking about other opinions and to compromise to make the game healthy and good.
Watching your diplomacy, i think at least way you can fail same aspects as GM. But you did at your first game. More, you declared your principals, which makes totally impossible to deal with you as GM in longterm, which i show you. And after all, instead of making fix and getting compromise and details rules basis, like you did for other areas at this forum... you only put yourself in stubborness of ranking your opinion as universal true. And that is complete wrong for puprose of other players. Show me the game, when it was left by 3 players for 120 years only because of GM. If you can`t reach understanding, there is either majority is wrong or you are.
But, of course, i see it is totally useless for your understanding. I`m not going to devote any more time to this in conception of non-effectiveness. But each time there will be certain topic, i`ll rate your GMing as bad, because i have such opinion. At the same time it will be always pleasure to play with you.
Tonioz said:
Daniel's GMing style I believe isn't about running the smoothest ship, solving issues, and finding compromises (well not as its primary objective at least) but GM'ing as he thinks it should be done (and have been done in the past by other GMs): by adhering to a strict and absolute set of rules. Simply put.
This was not the points I adressed. I pointed at one incorrect statement of facts you made and one where you have still not presented any evidence to support your assumption.
I will not here discuss the effectiveness of my GMing merely than iterating that I consider it a duty of a GM to intervene when he believes that the most basic rules of all games, to behave well, has been broken. Just as he intervenes when a rule that has impact on the outcome of the game has been broken, such as someone swapping maps with the AI although it is forbidden.
This is really simple, although most GMs are passive in fear of having people leaving their game. I have no such fear, I want only well-behaving people in my games and only people who adhere to the rules, and there enough of them in the community. At least I hope so.
I will not here discuss the effectiveness of my GMing merely than iterating that I consider it a duty of a GM to intervene when he believes that the most basic rules of all games, to behave well, has been broken. Just as he intervenes when a rule that has impact on the outcome of the game has been broken, such as someone swapping maps with the AI although it is forbidden.
This is really simple, although most GMs are passive in fear of having people leaving their game. I have no such fear, I want only well-behaving people in my games and only people who adhere to the rules, and there enough of them in the community. At least I hope so.
K'shar said:
Thanks K'shar!
Will you not join this game? I would certainly be happy if you did. But perhaps you are on the wrong side of the Atlantic
Daniel A said:
I spent so much time with you at ICQ, so i`m not going to repeat the circle again.
Daniel A said:
Translation: you want only people, who matches your understanding of well-behaved, because it addresses
- the rules
- and rules doesn`t say anything definite of them, except point on your head
Quit rate only shows that noone can, of course, predict what you can have in your head by giving undefinite things. And for me it is hardly impressive if most players of the game are fresh newcomers, and game didn`t pass even halfway.
K'shar said:Hehe, i edited my post before I ever read this ... see how well i know you Dan
It is no surprise that they praise your diplomatic efforts in EGA5! To understand what goes on in the mind of men is paramount in diplomacy as in life itself.
Daniel A said:Thanks K'shar!
I'll see, but time and I don't get along so well lately.
Tonioz said:
The majority are not "fresh newcomers". Another error of fact.
But enough of this. Why are not the so-called GMs heavily engaged in setting up the game so we can start next week?
K'shar said:
hehe, K`shar, you are in same position as me before joining
When you get the things by yourself, it is different to judje from distance.
Watching Daniel`s diplomacy i was totally sure he will be reasonable GM, not that he stuck in own opinion.
Tonioz said:hehe, K`shar, you are in same position as me before joining
When you get the things by yourself, it is different to judje from distance.
Watching Daniel`s diplomacy i was totally sure he will be reasonable GM, not that he stuck in own opinion.
hehe, I think you misjudge Tonio. May comment was only a half-complement to Daniel. It was as much a personal criticism, and he knows this.
I Co-Gm'd in EGA5 where he was a player and fenced with him for many pages. I'm not a fan of many things "Daniel" and he ended up leaving that campaign ... but I can be relied upon to state the truth in situations such as those above.
Daniel A said:
I played with three players before - you, KJ and Cicero. Rest for me not much experience players. Their progress in game is far from level of you and KJ. Of course i didn`t mean they play first game. But the level is totally different from FAL`s last games for example. Lower than C&C 1&2. For me, like i told you before the game, it is important thing to get fun and to rate the game and GMing.
K'shar said:hehe, I think you misjudge Tonio. May comment was only a half-complement to Daniel. It was as much a personal criticism, and he knows this.
I Co-Gm'd in EGA5 where he was a player and fenced with him for many pages. I'm not a fan of many things "Daniel" and he ended up leaving that campaign ... but I can be relied upon to state the truth in situations such as those above.
K`shar, i knew pro and contra of Daniel before the game too, you don`t suprise me. So i still think you are in same situation as me. It was completely another experience (and shock) to see Daniel`s power actions in his game
Less expected was to get that he didn`t follow in this game own struggle for rules in other games.